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With the Western release of Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE rapidly approaching, and new findings of censorship continuing to be discovered, here’s a special roundup of all of the localization changes from the original Japanese version found so far.

1) Ages increased to 18.

It has been confirmed that three characters ages have been increased from 17 to 18. The 16-year-old Eleonora may have also had her age raised, as we have not yet seen any footage clarifying this. Japanese voice acting has even been re-recorded to reflect the changes, as seen in the video above.

2) Toned down upskirt shots.

Spats Tokyo Mirage Sessions Censorship

Japanese version (top), English version (bottom).

Offscreen footage, captured by the folks at GameXplain, appears to show Tsubasa with some kind of ‘censorship shadow’ or costume change, to obscure the sight of upskirt shots.

3) Poster girls dressed less suggestively.

The gravure idol posters that are littered all around a chapter 2 dungeon now show the girls wearing much more clothing.

4) Tsubasa’s bikini outfit completely changed.

Tsubasa Stripping 2 Tokyo Mirage Sessions Censorship

English version (left), Japanese version (right).

Tsubasa wears a bikini in the original Japanese version. Over in the West, this has been replaced with a outfit that keeps the majority of her skin covered up. (Video comparison.)

5) Boss’ Breasts Hidden By Smoke

Boss Breasts Tokyo Mirage Sessions Censorship

English version (left), Japanese version (right).

Aversa, a chapter 1 boss, has had her breasts covered up by some kind of animated, black smoke. (Video comparison)

6) Missing Hot Springs DLC.

Nintendo have revealed their DLC plans for the Western versions of the game. All DLC that is available in Japan is listed to be available, with the exception of the fan service filled Hot Springs DLC. This DLC provides you with a selection of bikini outfits to dress your characters in, as well as new, fully voiced and animated cutscenes, such as that seen in the video above. 

7) Tsubasa’s music video outfit changed.

The “Feel” music video now shows Tsubasa dressed in a different kind of top, which hides her cleavage. If you pay close attention, you’ll also notice the ‘v lines’ around her pubic region have been removed as well.

Speaking to Game Informer, Nintendo has given a statement on why these censorship changes were made.

“It was a priority to ensure the game feels familiar and appeals to longtime Atlus fans. Any changes made to the in-game content were due to varying requirements and regulations in the many different territories Nintendo distributes its products.”

Teen ESRB Tokyo Mirage Sessions

To clarify, Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE has been rated Teen by the ESRB and will be released for the Wii U in North America and Europe June 24th.


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  • solutha

    Yeah leave the JP voice to provide a more “authentic” game world but change all this shit because tits and ass are bad.

    Maybe if they spent less time and money changing game assets they could have afforded English voice talent.

  • SomeCollegeStudent

    How about they add a “nudity” option that lets you switch between “inappropriate” and “appropriate” content?

    What’s that? … That’s still unacceptable? … You demand that they follow your beliefs even though the devs are from a foreign country? … And you live in a country that parades the idea of “freedom”?

  • Reptile

    What the fuck is this shit? Why don’t they put an fullscreen black cover to hide everything then? If everything is “problematic” and “inappropriate”?

  • davidpoketrainer

    I wonder what ESRB rating Nintendo thinks any old random beach would get…

  • James

    “It was a priority to ensure the game feels familiar and appeals to longtime Atlus fans.”

    No.
    No it wasn’t.
    Nothing about this feels familiar or appealing, as a longtime Atlus fan. The changes are not the way Atlus does things, the silence on the changes is not how Atlus does things, the removed content is not how Atlus does things. There is absolutely NOTHING here that feels familiar because NOTHING here is the way Atlus has done anything for over 11 years now.

  • Galbador

    And this is why I won’t suport Nintendo in any shape or way until they stop this bullshit.
    There, I said it and I will stay to it.

  • Rumble Red

    It’s amazing. This is a game that’s already fairly niche, that alienated a bunch of that niche by not being anything like what it was first announced as, and now NoA are doing their best to scare off the few people left who still care. I’m not one for conspiracy theories, but censoring a game like this is such a bizarre decision that it genuinely looks like deliberate sabotage.

  • Mea K

    “Any changes made to the in-game content were due to varying requirements
    and regulations in the many different territories Nintendo distributes
    its products.”

    So I take it we’re supposed to believe the ages were altered to comply with retarded Canadian and Australian 2D=real laws and the other changes were made to avoid offending places like Saudi Arabia? If only they could, I don’t know, publish a distinct censored version of the game in those territories so that one country with a backwards mentality can’t ruin things for the rest of us. What a novel idea…

  • TT

    it’s not even nudity though, at worst it’s bikinis ffs. And even more ironic, after having a literal prostitute for PR, you’d have figured this stuff would be par for the course for them.

  • Cats736

    AO!

  • Natalius

    Pretty much this. I was interested in the title when it was first announced because, sadly enough, I could never get into the SMT series when it was first introduced as no one carried the games in my area for rent or to buy. Fire Emblem was pretty fun and I was able to play that through purchasing the titles when I finally hit the job having age.

    That being said, however, the amount of censorship this game has gone through makes me feel like the original spirit of the game is going to be changed as well. This type of vicious censorship puts me off to buying titles. It’s the reason I haven’t bought the new FE games.

  • BurntToShreds

    Adding more options for more people is always better than removing content and upsetting people.

  • magicalfollower

    “It was a priority to ensure the game feels familiar and appeals to longtime Atlus fans.[…]”
    I don’t remember a single Atlus game censored, you know…aside from this one.

  • Jake Martinez

    I get the feeling that they erred extremely on the side of caution to keep their “T” rating in the United States.

  • The hot springs are gone, but could the swimsuits remain in the DLC sets? Also, there are 2 swimsuits in game (not DLC) in the JP version. Are those two confirmed out?

  • It’s funny, when first revealed, the game had a RP rating with the expectation of it getting an “M” (which probably doesn’t matter anyway when taking Fatal Frame V into account). Strange that they would change their mind to make it T rated instead. Even funnier, They’re doing all this unnecessary crap to ensure that T rating. But you know what else got a T rating with vitrually no changes in them? Pic related (boxart was fanmade, but that IS the rating it got).

    Hell, within the SMT series, you know what games got a T rating, and also with no changes? Twice!? Pics also related.

    NoA should’ve just stayed hands off and just let Atlus do their thing. TMS bombed like hell over in Japan. This game could’ve had a second wind here in the west and be another one of those Japanese properties that does better in the west than in their home country (like Metroid). But it looks like that’s not gonna happen.

  • thatguyEZ

    Welp, add this to my ‘don’t buy’ list. I was pretty excited for this game, but Nintendo absolutely crushed any enthusiasm I had for it. I hope this brutal control from Nintendo over Atlus scares them from ever working with Nintendo again. Nintendo is doing everything they can to make me hate them and ensure I don’t buy a NX until they get their shit in order.

  • Einar

    What really pisses me off about the whole recent censorship frenzy is that it might very well ruin any incentive for japanese publishers to bring this kind of game west. As has been pointed out many times already, this is already a very niche genre. By alienating the audience that does exist, they risk the “localized” game selling very poorly.
    And considering how far out of touch with reality the Nintendo high-ups seem to be lately, I wouldn’t put it past them to go “Welp, looks like there isn’t a market for this kind of game in the west after all”. We’ll end up back in the bad old days where anything too unusual, unconventional or “too japanese” just won’t get localized. The only upside, I guess is that NoA and Treehouse will get fewer projects to ruin.

    Now I’m a huge fan of both SMT and Fire Emblem. When this game was announced, it was like a dream come true. When it looked nothing like expected I was a little disappointed but still 100% on board. But with all this censorship nonsense I won’t even touch it. Not even used. If I pay for a game, I want that game, the complete game, as it was intended by the creator.
    Oh well. Guess I’ll work on my gaming backlog instead. And how is the FE Fates fan translation coming along?

    P.S. sorry for the rant

  • Kev Lew

    could be, the puritan reactions to CG bodies in the UK and USA is mostly coming from the more visible media (magazines, tv, corporate affiliated websites). The people that actually play and pay for these games did not used to have to worry about these titles ever being seen by them let alone attacked due to the visual decisions. Back when making an article could take over a month to go to print raising this type of furore over a bikini shot was ridiculous when there were bikini shots in the adverts on that same publication.

  • Bitterbear

    Remember: SJWs always double down. I’m waiting for Nintendo to have a another crippling failure thanks to NoA’s lazy, sloppy job.

  • heavenshitman1

    Comments here are looking unanimous.
    These changes suck. And the game will ultimately be worse off for it.
    Whoevers responsible for these consored decisions should know they’re damaging fashion style in gaming.
    Goto your local beach on a sunny day, all the young girls there are in bikini’s n one-pieces.
    My God, and its considered inappropriate in a game???

  • Stealth

    “Nothing about this feels familiar or appealing, as a longtime Atlus fan. The changes are not the way Atlus does things”

    Atlus changes a TON in there games, very similar to this. SMT IV?

  • Stealth

    The changes are normal for localizations. Because this is Nintendo and people love to slam them in a hypocritical fashion, this has become a big deal.

    The game is previewing EXTREMELY well, sales on amazon look good. A minority complain about everything

  • MusouTensei

    Fuck Nintendo.

  • MusouTensei

    NeoFAG is that way.

  • Stealth

    Yeah fuck Nintendo.

    Lets forget that Atlus has made similar changes in the past to DDS,Devil Summoner, Devil Survivor, SMT IV, ect.

    Yeah, but lets say fuck Nintendo considering they are not even localizing the game.

  • MusouTensei

    The censorship apologists are here. hide your lewds!

  • Stealth

    Localization changes that 99.9999% of JRPG receive is not really censorship. But if you want to be angry about everything, then never buy another localized JRPG.

  • Creamer

    Solution? import the game. don’t play this trash like this.

  • Ayame Kajou

    I hope this game sells badly and sends a message to Nintendon’t

    I’ve sent them a few e-mails to make sure why they know I’m not getting the game so that they don’t just blame it people not being interested.

  • Ayame Kajou

    How much censored is this thing?

    (Seeing as somebody asking this got Eternal Destiny uncensored I thought it would be good luck to ask it about this game 😛 )

  • Ayame Kajou

    The funny thing is that there is no stigma over selling AO games in most of Europe like there is in america….

    The Bayonetta 1 & 2 bundles here are our equivalent of AO (18+). Bayonetta 1 was 18+ and 2 was out equivalent of M (16+), so 1 pushed up the age rating of the bundle.

    GTA V is also an 18+ game here.

  • Ayame Kajou

    To be honest, I would rather not get the game at all than get it in it’s current form.
    At least if we didn’t have it then getting a proper copy could be something I could hope for, but if we get this version I know we will be stuck with this version without Nintendo ever fixing it.

  • magicalfollower

    The game already done poorly on Japan.
    I think this is gonna be a disaster…

  • Ayame Kajou

    It is most likely Nintendo. At the very least the DLC not being Included could only be Nintendo seeing as they are the publisher and would have all decisions about what is and isn’t sold.

  • Stealth

    You do not know though. Atlus has a history as do all JRPG localizers of this.

  • Stealth

    Maybe 2% of the overall game? I mean it does not really effect anything as the PAX previews went into detail on.

  • Stealth

    The game will sell much better in the states, Amazon sales are encouraging.

  • Ayame Kajou

    I do know this. We already know that Nintendo is the publisher. They would literally be the only ones with the power to make that decision.

  • Stealth

    People complained about Xenoblade X and Fire Emblem too.

    Xenoblade is one of the highest selling console JRPGs in ages, and Fire Emblem is one of the top selling JRPGs of the last 10 years…….

    Nintendo has seen that people complain, but they still buy the game anyway

  • Stealth

    Nintendo is the publisher, Atlus Developed the game, is doing the localization, and just about everything else.

    From what we know Nintendo is publisher in terms of Marketing and distribution. Not these kinds of decisions on this title.

  • Ayame Kajou

    Aren’t you the one claiming further up that it isn’t Nintendo, and here you are saying it is? Geez, keep your trolling consistent.

  • Ayame Kajou

    Yes, distribution. As in Atlus would not have the power to say to not distribute something (such as the excluded DLC)

  • Stealth

    Look, whether you buy the game or not is your business. I have no problem if you do not.

    I just wanted you to know that Atlus changed SMT IV, Persona games, pretty much all SMT games in varying degrees in the same way. Thats all.

    This is not something that is foreign to Atlus or any localized JRPG.

  • Stealth

    I am saying the only reason why this is a story is because people think it is Nintendo’s fault. That brings in hits. Not that it is.

    I am educating you people as someone who has ties to Atlus, the Treehouse and is recognized as one of the most knowledgeable and respected JRPG fans on the internet.

    https://twitter.com/Stealth___

  • Ayame Kajou

    Of course I know their history of censorship, though they have gotten better recently…

    Speaking of which, on a random side thought, their censoring of the word “Heaven” as “celestia” in the disgaea game has always annoyed the crap out of me (and NISA are still using the term now that they have taken over). Especially in guided fate paradox the swapped term made certain conversations lose a lot of their meaning. They avoid using the word Hell too, but Netherworld still has a sensible word that makes sense.

  • Taf Jaf

    Other than the censorship, is the game actually good to play, i could honestly give no fucks about the censoring if it means the game in spirit is decent to play. If i wanted pr0n in my games, I play whatever else is out in the internet on my PC to begin with.

  • Stealth

    Look, this is my motto. If you want nothing changed, learn Japanese and import from Japan.

    Localized JRPGs have changes to varying degrees and I am ok with that.

  • Ayame Kajou

    Seeing as you as a random person in the internet say so say so then it must be true…. >_>

  • Ayame Kajou

    I’ve been trying to learn Japanese for 10 years and still suck. (we also have to learn 3 languages in my country as we grow up, and I still suck at the 2 other than English)

    If you are okay with there being changes would you also be okay with there being no changes? Because if you don’t care either way there is no need to try knocking down the people who do care (seeing as you would be satisfied either way).

  • Stealth

    I do not really care either way. There is a big difference between trying to be reasonable and what is happening here.

  • Valwin Mediaz

    ahahahahahahahah sure it is

  • Valwin Mediaz

    it is actually if you know how this kind of games works di you even play persona ? i would say no

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Nintenbaby here goes full defense mode

  • Valwin Mediaz

    Nice try

  • Valwin Mediaz

    is so amazing that it bomb

  • Valwin Mediaz

    this person here is a liar

  • Valwin Mediaz

    ahahahahahHAHHAAHHAAHAHAHh

  • Valwin Mediaz

    again atleast you try

  • Forte

    Persona 2?

    Don’t get me wrong, this is unacceptable, just throwing that out there.

  • Taf Jaf

    Welp, if this is true, seems like this outrage is manufacture to hurt its sales

  • magicalfollower

    There’s also Masao that got turned into a black dude on Persona: Revelations to make the game more “diverse” …
    I guess should have looked into the older games, since the current management don’t support these practices.

  • Stealth

    Sigh, you post things without knowing what they mean. He said posting a blog is Nintendo. Afterwards he clarified that any changes are done by Atlus.

  • Stealth

    Laugh, people said the same about Xenoblade and Fire Emblem

  • Stealth

    I am a liar that the game is getting rave previews? Look on Game Informer, IGN, Gamespot , ect

  • Stealth

    As I explained to you before, you have no idea what you are even posting. He said it is Nintendo’s domain to make a blog, marketing.

    He then clarified right after that At;us does the changes. Both of them follow me on twitter, so I saw this entire conversation happen lol

  • Stealth

    Name calling? Come on.

  • Stealth

    You laugh, but you make no points…..

  • Stealth

    I respect that

  • magicalfollower

    It’s currently on the 11th position for best saler on the Wii U section.
    But without sale numbers for it, it makes really hard to measure “encouraging”.
    That is unless you have data that i don’t.

  • Stealth

    Last week it was number 3 on Amazon. i guess that changes

  • Stealth

    I am just going to post this since the person calling me a liar is posting this conversation out of context.

  • magicalfollower

    http://www.gameinformer.com/b/news/archive/2016/04/21/atlus-localizing-nintendo-published-tokyo-mirage-sessions-fe.aspx

    Nintendo mentioned to Game Informer on this article that they would make changes to the in-game content that were due to varying requirements and regulations in the many different territories that Nintendo distributes its product.

    I believe it’s pretty clear that these changes are being made by Nintendo.

  • Stealth

    Atlus changes non Nintendo platform games in the same way……….so how can you blame Nintendo?

    Look, if you do not want to buy the game, that is your business, but lets stop acting like this is some new occurance in the realm of JRPGs

  • Samma

    Persona 4 golden contains a cutscene with a woman in a bikini at a beach advertising a lemonade. No sunlight in the camera to hide the bikini in the Japanese or western version.

    This game also contains a cutscene with a woman in a bikini at a beach advertising a lemonade. No sunlight in the camera to hide the bikini in the japanese version, but there is sunlight in the camera hiding the bikini in the western version.

    This tells me it’s not international law, or Atlus’ doing because P4G didn’t get censored. Suddenly Nintendo becomes along and it does get censored. This tells me it was Nintendo’s doing and nothing else.

  • Stealth

    Atlus did make dialogue changes to Persona 4 Golden. They also changed SMT IV, a game Nintendo did not publish. They also changed DDS and Nocturne back during the PS2 days.

    The degree to which each game has changed is debatable. What is not debatable? All localizers change games. Nintendo included.

  • magicalfollower

    I know that this isn’t a new occurance on gaming.
    But what i’m saying is that Nintendo is in charge of removing in-game content for this localization.

    Even Nintendo admits that.

  • Stealth

    They did not admit that though…….They admitted that for Xenoblade X. Not this game. Maybe you have that confused.

  • Samma

    That last bit is exactly the point of this all. Nintendo saying the localisation is done by Atlus’ norms when it’s not.

    When Atlus changes a few lines to keep the same feel of a joke, fine. When Nintendo removes any and all things that in some universe can be considered sexual, to the point of changing context of the story, not fine.

  • Stealth

    The localization is being done by Atlus. Nintendo and Atlus confirmed it. Nintendo is doing the publishing and marketing, hence why Hardin said Nintendo was going to do the blog.

    “When Atlus changes a few lines to keep the same feel of a joke, fine.”

    Atlus changes demons, characters, ect between regions. SMT IV? Same changes as this game, nobody made a stink like this. DDS? Massive changes.

  • Samma

    Could you give me an example from demons changed in SMT iv?

  • Ben (Broken)

    A long time ago I remember Atlus censored Persona 1. Ellen was made blonde & Mark was made black. They also removed the snow-queen dungeon dealing with the class-room teacher. But beyond that one instance (Which again was a long time ago) I don’t recall Atlus changing or censoring much.

    I mean in Persona 4 we STILL got Risette’s strip dungeon (Plus seeing her in a skimpy bikini) & Kanji’s Bad Bad Bath-house! (Where Kanji was questioning his sexuality) Heck even Naoto’s dungeon touched on gender dysphoria.

    Given we got all that in Persona 4 & mature themes in their other games like Digital Devil saga and SMT: Nocturne, these changes do seem very unnecessary.

  • Stealth

    Someone sent me pictures on twitter a few month ago with side by side comparisions. https://twitter.com/Stealth___ Having trouble finding them, if you have the time, go crazy. I get tweeted by a lot of people about JRPGs, so it is hard to find things. Sorry

    But Atlus toned down certain demons

  • Stealth

    DDS, Nocturne, SMT IV did get changes.

    We can argue Tokyo Mirage got more changes, but Atlus is no stranger to recent changes.

    I am going to enjoy the hell out of this. Personally, I enjoy the new costumes.

  • Ben (Broken)

    I’m sure it’ll have a good story & good gameplay! Still,the changes to me seem unnecessary. (shrugs) I mean we’ve seen much racier content before and usually dealing with teenager characters no less. Regardless,I can understand why you anticipate the game despite the censorship. Happy gaming!

  • Samma

    I’m having trouble finding examples as well, so I’ll keep that one open.

    Still, what raises my red flag are the more blunt and noticeable changes, especially one example as stated above where Atlus was fine with a scene in P4G, but suddenly isn’t in a game they too are supposedly localising.

    I’m fine with localisation to an extent, when it’s hardly noticable, like Bravely Second’s costumes. They had no impact on any story or context. But Atlus doesn’t usually shy away from medium amount of skin, nor does Nintendo when looking at Xenoblade or Cia from Hyrule Warriors.

    So this still leaves me with questions like why here and why so much.

  • Stealth

    We will never know. I will fully admit Nintendo and Atlus both have a history of changing things. As do other Japanese publishers.

    I am sorry I could not find it, I get tweeted at a ton. I should have saved the pic but yes SMT IV got changed and I would not be shocked if Apocalypse got changed too

  • Veritas

    What exactly did they change between the JPN and NA versions of Digital Devil Saga besides the Opening Theme? As for SMT IV the only noticeable change was Diana having her nipples removed, however the JPN version didn’t have nipples on Diana either. Unless there was something else, no one had a reason to freak since there was no significant difference between the two versions.
    I searched your Twitter by the way, I found nothing confirming your allegations.

    Overall, this all points to something weird with Nintendo as opposed to Atlus, given Atlus’ history with localization which has never veered towards being this extreme since Persona 2 and Nintendo’s recent “localization” incidents in regards to Japanese games.

  • Purodyuusaa

    I already wasn’t going to buy this game a few censorships ago, but the more that goes on, the worse it feels to be an SMT fan.

    At least there’s P5 to save the day. That is unless these fucks get a hold of it.

  • Stealth

    DDS had some demon changes, SMT IV had some demon changes between the US and Japanese versions.

    Someone tweeted me the picture, I did not retweet it so it is hard to find.

    Look, would I love it if games had no changes like this?

    Yes. But that is not realistic. You can either not buy it or buy it. Like Xenoblade X and Fire Emblem, bravely second, other games with changes, I bought them and had a blat!

  • Veritas

    Don’t worry. P5 will be fine. Also, I have faith that SMT IV Apocalypse will be fine to since that’s all Atlus, no Nintendo involvement with that localization.

  • Samma

    Apocalypse did get changed, afaik. They removed a lightflash, making the guts fly visibly out of the woman’s belly in the US trailer. It’s a change, I guess, an uncensorship. Lol.

    I feel good having talked to you about this. I still have my opinions on the changes, that they go too far, and maybe they will become less common in the future. As for now, I’ll probably get the game.

  • Stealth

    SMT IV had changes……to the demons specifically and dialogue.

    I fully expect changes to Apocalypse.

  • Stealth

    The way I see it you can import games from Japan, or accept that localizations will have changes, regardless of how big and how small. I accept they will.

    Xenoblade X and Fire Emblem had similar controversy and I bought them and enjoyed the hell out of them, but sold crazy, and got rave reviews. I do not think this game will sell like that but I can see this game as a cult hit here.

  • Veritas

    Japan was always the Inverse in terms of what gets removed. They keep the lewd stuff, take out the violent stuff. We keep the violent stuff, ditch the lewd stuff. One of the best examples of this was No More Heroes between the Japanese and American versions.

  • Samma

    Regarding importing, would you like Nintendo consoles to be region free as they make playing the game cheaper or easier?

  • Stealth

    Read the PAX previews, do not listen to me. I have not gotten my hands on it yet

  • Stealth

    Nintendo is stupid not making it region free but that is a different topic

  • Samma

    I have read the reviews of importers, and while some found the story passable, they found the gameplay more streamlined and slightly innovative compared to other Atlus games.

    Sounds quite good in my book.

  • Stealth

    To its like, are you really just going to skip a game over a few costumes and some decency edits? I am not willing to do that.

  • Cecilthedarknight_28

    as with xenoblade chronicles x, fire emblem fates I will be voting with my wallet and I will not buy this bastardized localization. All I can say is fuck you NOA & Atlus usa.

  • Veritas

    As for DDS demon changes, I can’t find any. I’ve checked my copy, scoured details about it over the internet and not a single difference other than the opening theme. As for SMT IV, nothing I found other than Diana. Either they’re that minuscule or I’m on a snipe hunt.

    Overall, I will not be buying TMS because I cannot in good faith support these actions.

    Instead, I’m cracking open my copy of Stella Glow I got recently, following up on some Xseed/Marvelous games and grabbing up a Vita when I find one along with some memory cards for cheap.

  • Samma

    Costumes and decency edits? No, that’s why I mentioned being fine with Bravely Second.

    Changes to context and story in a story driven game make me more hesitant.

  • Daredevil

    Why? It’s the only good news about the western version so far. English dub for Japanese games suck major dick.

  • Stealth

    As I have said, if you do not want to buy it that is cool. I am and I expect to have a super time. I hope you play what you like

  • Carl619

    They expose censorship. I don’t know why this is bad journalism, does this mean that good journalism is hiding it?

  • Carl619

    Currently the best localizer is Xseed, their only changes are hiding the age.

  • Stealth

    I think Nintendo is the best. They do more JRPGs per year than just about anyone………I mean, they do more than JRPGs. Not really a far comparision

  • Valwin Mediaz

    lol

  • Valwin Mediaz

    MUH PAX

  • Valwin Mediaz

    again nice try

  • Valwin Mediaz

    BOMB

  • Valwin Mediaz

    at least you try

  • Einar

    That is a good point. But it’s not something I’d count on considering Nintendo’s track record. We only recently got Mother 1 and most of the old Fire Emblem games are still untranslated outside of fan translations, for example. I honestly don’t think a future localization would be much different than the current one unless Nintendo gets a serious rude awakening – they seem almost impervious to suggestions and criticisms, and that is the most frustrating for me as a longtime fanboy. The sheer amount of stupidity they get up to…

  • Veritas

    My man. I’d high five ya but I’d rather not knock over my monitor. Are you getting Corpse Party? Also related, the only noted changes (mentioned by Xseed themselves) for Corpse Party (for all versions) is the removal of a Nokia ring tone for obvious legal reasons. I personally admire their transparency and track record for stuff like this.

  • Veritas

    Quality is always better than quantity. Remember the Wii, sold like
    hotcakes, besieged by shovelware, some of which came from big name companies who still made some very good titles here and there for many systems including the Wii when they actually took the time to make them; for instance, Namco-Bandai and Capcom.

    I think that it’s quite a fair comparison. I’d rather have a small handfull of properly localized JRPGs from someone like Xseed as opposed to a huge pile of sub-par localizations like NISA or recent Nintendo games.

  • Daredevil

    Smt iv got changes because it was on a shittendo console, the constant pattern here is always the same : shittendo.

  • Daredevil

    He’s right though

  • rergerger

    “We’re not dubbing the game to preserve its cultural aspects.”
    “We’ve completely altered the plot of Chapter 2 because gravure culture alienates westerners.”
    Which is it?

  • rergerger

    Oh, you can be certain the spirit of the game has been changed.
    That bikini wasn’t just a bikini, it was an integral part of a whole section of idol culture that was being dissected in the narrative of the game, to change it they heavily altered the script and had the VA’s redub dozens of lines.

  • rergerger

    ESRB rarely blacklists games just for being risque, I mean, Senran Kagura Burst was rated T and the only change was removing any mention of some of the girls being underage; they weren’t even aged up, the age was just not mentioned.
    ESRB has become extremely permissive, and the only reason they ever threaten AO ratings lately is when pedophilia is implied (Like with the loli characters in Dungeon Travelers).

  • rergerger

    Chapter 2 was entirely rewritten, how that constitutes 2% eludes me.

  • rergerger

    Look at Milla Maxwell from Tales of Xillia and then tell me these changes are common and necessary.

  • solutha

    I was more pointing out the hypocrisy rather than advocating dubs.

  • Daredevil

    All on Nintendo consoles you fucking hypocrite. For real, get that Nintendo dick out of your mouth.

  • Erik Schults (Koinzellgaming)

    There is no point in censoring this shit. These revealing clothes will not kill any kittens when it gets to the US and the clothes should NOT matter in a video game.

    I really can’t help but feel like feminists/SJW’s are the ones who’re spearheading this whole censoring thing. The clothing of characters does NOT change how any of the gamers feel towards the characters. What does actually change our views, and impressions, of the character is their ACTUAL CHARACTER, THEIR STORY. Their clothing is irrelevant. Meaning there’s no fucking reason in censoring that shit. The only reason this pisses me off, is that instead of simply translating the game and putting it out, they have to spend a long ass time censoring and changing shit that does not matter, somehow making it into a “moral issue”. Stop bullshitting around and simply give us the game that we want to play.

    We gamers see ALL the characters as objects if they don’t have sufficient story and character to them. Because they are in-fact. inanimate, imaginary, characters. A lot of work needs to go into them before we see them as more then “objects”..
    For example the old SNES mario WAS an object going to save and object, from a object (Although back then the fantasy played a important part in imaging the world ofc.). We didn’t understand Mario’s character or story at all. All we knew he was going to go save the princess. That’s it.

  • Daredevil

    Please, forget to breathe you pathetic fanboy waste of space

  • rergerger

    If the censorship was limited to them ruining the line of the outfits with their fashion-illiterate edits the problem wouldn’t be as big, but the game has been confirmed to have been heavily rewritten too.

  • Daredevil

    Can you please elaborate?

  • Cap’n Catpants

    It was a priority to ensure the game feels familiar and appeals to longtime censorship fans, lest they get offended by female anatomy. Not that those people buy games anyway.
    Translation: Pucker up your anus, because we’re going to keep screwing you.

    This is pathetic and sad. From the way games are localized in the West, I’d have to assume that most Western people close their eyes when they shower or bathe, never look in the mirror, never go to the beach, and are perpetually 3 years old in mentality. All the while enjoying sex, nudity and violence on TV, in movies, in Western pop music, etc.

    None of this makes any sense.

  • Stealth

    I just reported your comments. No point in engaging with a troll.

  • Stealth

    I just reported your comments. No point in engaging with a troll..

  • Stealth

    I never said they were necessary. They are just a way of life. Tales games get changes too.

  • Stealth

    Entirely? no

  • Stealth

    I just reported your comments. No point in engaging with a troll…

  • Stealth

    How pathetic. Atlus changes games on Sony platforms too. I love Nintendo haters.

  • Stealth

    Wii had some of the best games that Gen. Hell. Mario Galaxy 1/2 are the highest reviewed games ever. Wii had shovelware, also had some incredible titles.

    Xseed has its mistakes too.

    Nintendo has done some REALLY great work lately like Bravely, Like star fox, like fire emblem, like xenoblade, like smash bros, pokemon, ect.

    I think the overall body of work is great. Every company has a dud localization every now and then

  • Stealth

    Are changes like this necessary? No

    For 30+ years, as long as JRPGs have been localized, changes have been made. Some are larger than others. Every company is guilty of it.

    You have two options. Only import JRPGs, or buy localized jrpgs.

    Do you get this angry when western games are changed for Japan? Or are you only getting angry because it is Nintendo? There is a double standard when it comes to stuff like this.

    I am not that worried, if this is anything like Xenoblade and Fire Emblem, once the game comes out and people are playing it, a lot of the controversies disappear.

    I am sorry for posting so much, I am pretty passionate about this game. I have been one of the major people on twitter talking about it. I am even getting a review copy from Nintendo actually.

    I think I was pretty reasonable, and I was open to everyone’s opinion to not buy the game. I just wish people showed me the same courtesy and leave the namecalling behind, it is uncalled for. We are all gamers. I am new to this site, so I was hoping for some good debate, and I actually got that so thanks.

  • Stealth

    you got it.

  • magicalfollower

    You didn’t read the article that i sent you, did you?

  • Stealth

    I did. Nintendo is not localizing TMS. Atlus is doing it in house.

  • Carl619

    All my money will be going to Legend of Heroes saga and Senran Kagura Estival Versus. Although I am thinking on getting it too, but I would need more money,

    For me, this is the kind of attitude that we should encourage, they don’t think in change the game they are going to localize, they give us the game as close as they can to the original version while avoiding all possible censorship.

  • Pavement

    So fucking sick of censorship in these localized games.

    It’s not true to the translation if the translators are inserting their own fucked up values into the already completed works.

    Fuck this. I’ll learn to speak Japanese before I support this nonsense. Whoever’s in charge of the localization should be ashamed.

  • heavenshitman1

    The game may do fine, but likely better without the censorship.
    The old addage ‘sex sells’ reigns supremely true in everything. Models are used to promote cars, sell clothes in catalogues. Why stunning girls (and men) play lead roles in movies. Its what makes ppl notice.
    Im not suggesting Nintendo and Co are the only ones, but as far as this game is concerned just voicing my thoughts.

    The Western world needs to liberate their tastes (similar tothe japanese) and stop pretending we all want to live in a 100% politically correct world.

    Its perfectly ok to admire a character in sensual dress wear. Its not evil

  • Stealth

    We will never be able to know how much better or if it will not effect it at all a game would do.

  • Erik Schults (Koinzellgaming)

    Re-written stories ofc are also shit. But it depends on what kind of motivation the localization company has for changing the story. If we get a story which is slightly different from the Japanese version, then I’d be wondering why, but if the story made sense, I would simply find that strange and move on. But if story points were changed with the motivation of “We didn’t like the message of the original story” or changing the base of the story from ground up, then depending on the reason why they did that, it’s going to be an issue. Motivation behind the changes is what’s important to me, as that’ll show the crux of the issue.

    People being over-sensitive towards video games, or pieces of art, is an issue in our society. The current society has large movements of “victimhood”, and companies, etc, are actually afraid of offending those potential haters. Hence censoring themselves. Caving in to those illogical, retarded, people, is detrimental to the whole gaming scene. Anyone who caves in to those people is doing a disservice to society.

  • Morgan Mollwing

    When parents let five year olds play Gta V, why does Nintendo and others bother with changing underwear and cleaveage and such?

  • Tales of xillia had a great dub

  • Zepherdog

    I’ll probably get a used wii u on the cheap just to mod it and play the non-censored versions and fan translations.

  • Tizlor

    W E W lads, we had a game where the protagonists committed suicide to do their magical bullshit thing, but by god if you show panties or cleavage…

  • >People right now are defending this shit.
    I guess people were right, only kids play Nintendo.

  • EroBotan

    I read somewhere in twitter that pelvic bones are erased too

  • EroBotan

    yeah, Atlus don’t have a problem with Dragon’s Crown

  • Galbador

    This IS another solution

  • Wow. They didn’t even try to keep it subtle this time.

  • Sonicx9

    Coming soon on Censored Gaming on YouTube: https://goo.gl/WuoJzx as DanDan of Censored Gaming, the ESRB, and Sega of America give Nintendo of America a huge Bitch Slap!

    Can you guess the ESRB/CERO rating for the game covered in the upcoming episode, have a guess?

  • TalesOfBS

    I am just importing their uncensored Japanese versions now. It can play dumps until the latest firmware so there is no reason to waste money on censored crp anymore.

  • TalesOfBS

    Nintendo once again….

  • Rautaputki

    This makes me sad.

  • rergerger

    It’s simple, there’s a very big difference between changing a few outfits (Even if they’re ruined by imbeciles without a fashion sense) and altering the story.
    I’m more willing to forgive the former because while it tampers with the art it doesn’t do so as much with the message; altering the plot means these people think they have the right to police our thoughts.

  • Silver Shoelaces

    Persona 4 is also an M-rated game. This one is rated T, and probably would have gotten an M rating or something similar in many countries just for having the bikinis in it. I understand your point, but I understand the changes as well.

  • Silver Shoelaces

    I like some of the changes. The new outfit in example #4 is so much better than a drab gray bikini. And I kind of understand the desire to make Nintendo properties family-friendly. But there was no reason to censor all of the bikinis other than to assuage the anxieties of the mothers of the 14 year old boys who will be playing this game.

  • Ratchet

    Can’t wait for Nintendo to finally burn down after all these examples of them lying to their customers, pushing third-party devs under the bus and making these inane changes to games. You can’t treat your customers and your main supporters (third party devs) this badly and expect to do well. Hopefully it wont be too long before they end up like Sega.

  • Streig

    If you skin is so thin that the very act of someone disagreeing with you is enough for you to report them, you need to get off the internet.

  • Moe Chan

    If you buy this localized version, 1- you’re a cuck
    2- you’re only supporting them more and they’ll keep doing this shit

  • J Smith

    that post is over a month old idiot

  • J Smith

    what do you mean it’s nothing like it was first announced when it was first announced no info was giving because the just made the deal

  • J Smith

    and what’s that Nintendo should let perverts have there boobs

  • J Smith

    and only idiots post on techraptor

  • J Smith

    So you are one of those idiot’s who didn’t buy the game because you couldn’t mak your boobs big or see a 14 year old in a thong

  • J Smith

    actually it was a success in Japan the home console market sucks ass in japan now so that 20000 may not seem like a lot ints huge in Japan

  • Cecilthedarknight_28

    I’ll probably buy it eventually since, I’m going for a complete Wii-U collection now. Yeah I’m dodging the question since I don’t have a good reason aside from “I’m Tired of shitty localization’s”. That aside let me ask you something what do you think of this edit in Tokyo Mirage Sessions?

  • J Smith

    Considering it was a few costume changes I don’t mind it I like the pants picture more then to no pants one

  • Guess you’re an idiot then.

  • Cecilthedarknight_28

    I didn’t mind the pants one but this one is utter bullshit and looks horrible. However to each their own I suppose.

  • usylo

    Right? At worst, put a “Localized” setting under the options, even turn it on by default, but at least give people the option.

    For this game in particular, I really don’t understand why Atlus/Nintendo used such a heavy hand in the localization process. As others have said, it’s already a niche title that’s going to appeal to older teenagers and adults, and these changes turn off the exact audience that’s otherwise interested in your games.

    Ultimately they just feel condescending.

  • discusser

    Things were better when games were exclusively for nerds and didn’t care about anyone’s feelings.

    SJW scum need to get out of my hobby right now