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What game does everyone seem to love that you despise?
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October 4, 2016 - 10:43 am
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I simply can't get into MMO's of any kind. I don't think they are terrible but I just can't wrap my head around how exactly you are supposed to play them. When I hear people talk about them they sound pretty fun but as soon as I sit down to play one I can't find any of the fun they're talking about. Dunno. My brain just isn't wired for em I guess  

My guess is that you're not giving them enough time. I've been playing MMO's exclusively for the past 25 years. Yes, that's right, going back to the "first" graphic one, the AOL's NWN from 1991, won't even mention the MUDs. Since then I've played literally hundreds of different MMOs. The thing is that after so many of them, I learned to ignore the most boring part which usually annoys people and I suppose you too - the leveling process. The first few (hundred...) times it may be fun but when you've been playing MMOs for so long, it gets really annoying. Most of the MMOs have some sort of leveling process and most of them take 50, 60 hours maybe more to reach the end game and basically that's when you actually start playing the game. Pretty much every MMO has relatively annoying leveling element, ranging from the "western" type "Run from A to B and talk to C then go back to A and talk to D" or "Kill 10 rats" to the "asian" grind fest "stay in this zone for X hours (days?) and kill couple of thousands of the same mob of which there are 5 on a 10 min respawn timer and a hundred people waiting to tag them"... You just have to ignore this tedious and boring process of leveling and start enjoying the end game. Pretty much the case with 99% of the MMO's out there.

 

But to answer the question:

What game does everyone seem to love that you despise?

F-ing LoL. MOBAs in general, such mind-bogglingly boring genre. But LoL in particular. The same boring map, the same objective, mashing the same 3 buttons, the same (current) meta for months, abysmal amount of trolls and downright bad players and by far the worst toxic community I've ever seen. Yea, I know I'll be BTFO'd by the fanboys but I don't care. I can't stand this game.

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October 4, 2016 - 11:48 am
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The last MMO I played was Shadow-something. It was pre-WOW. It was one of the worst games I have ever played. Miles of empty land with no enemies of any kind. Terrible game. I quit MMOs after that. I wasn't a big fan of them anyway.

 

FF7 is a game that I don't hate or despise but I always thought was massively overrated. I swear that I must have played a completely different game than everyone else. The Limit Break system was good. But the summoning was garbage. I'll go to my grave saying the Suikoden 2 was the greatest JRPG released on the Playstation 1. Better mechanics. Better story. Better characters. I liked FF7 but its almost become ridiculously sacred for some reason.. I think FF9 and FF6 were better games.

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October 4, 2016 - 12:58 pm
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Shitting on all these Bethesda games, and no mention of Oblivion or Morrowind? Crazy.

I mean, I loved Morrowind back when it was pretty much my only PC game, but once I lost the nostalgia goggles for it, I realized the progression was awful all-around, except for the parts that were sorta broken and fun to mess around with, and Oblivion was basically that all over again without the fun.

Oblivion with guns > Fallout 3 without guns

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Smash Bros. Because I never owned an N64 growing up and my friends never taught me how to play and just kicked my ass repeatedly. It's hard to learn when you only play versus with 5 lives and I'm dead before I can even figure out what all the buttons do. So I hated that entire series of games for years.

Different group of friends, but we played this past Friday on GameCube and they told me how to grab people and throw them. By the end of the night there were a couple matches where I didn't come last - so, progress is being made and I'm beginning to see why people like those games.

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October 4, 2016 - 2:49 pm
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Most Japanese RPGs are this for me. I really don't like how barren the gameplay often is, how detail-less the towns are, and in general, the lack of customization for the player characters both in terms of aesthetic as well as personality. I'm firmly in the WRPG camp when it comes to that stuff.

The one exception to the genre that I like was Lost Odyssey. Loved that game.

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October 5, 2016 - 5:39 am
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Dota 2, does that count?

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October 5, 2016 - 5:41 am
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Lennac said
Smash Bros. Because I never owned an N64 growing up and my friends never taught me how to play and just kicked my ass repeatedly. It's hard to learn when you only play versus with 5 lives and I'm dead before I can even figure out what all the buttons do. So I hated that entire series of games for years.

Different group of friends, but we played this past Friday on GameCube and they told me how to grab people and throw them. By the end of the night there were a couple matches where I didn't come last - so, progress is being made and I'm beginning to see why people like those games.  

I have had great success with this game over the past few years, every single person I have shown this game was loving it, even non-gamers. We play it non-stop every single time I go home for holidays and take my Wii U with me. 

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October 5, 2016 - 10:53 am
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Doly said
Shitting on all these Bethesda games, and no mention of Oblivion or Morrowind? Crazy.

I mean, I loved Morrowind back when it was pretty much my only PC game, but once I lost the nostalgia goggles for it, I realized the progression was awful all-around, except for the parts that were sorta broken and fun to mess around with, and Oblivion was basically that all over again without the fun.

Oblivion with guns > Fallout 3 without guns  

That's because Morrowind was actually good. 😀

Not but really though, in terms of freedom to explore a pretty fleshed-out world with actual content, Morrowind still holds up to most of today's games I'd say, and it definitely blows both Oblivion and Skyrim out of the water.
Progression was non-existent in the sense that you made your own progression. If at level 2 you managed to sneak in a cave and find a powerful artifact, it was not a shitty scaled-to-your-level sword, it was a powerful, broken artifact (that you would still have to recharge with limit resources). You want to become the leader of a great house and grandmaster of 3 guilds before tackling the main quest? Be my guest.

And of course on top of that, the modding tools were amazing.

Some aspects of it were unbalanced though. Magic was unplayable. There was an optimal build (heavy armor, sword). Archery was aggravating at first. Stealth was not viable outside of towns.

And of course the main quest was meh. But that's a given in a Bethesda game.

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Dota 2, does that count?  

As someone hating all MOBAs equally I've got to ask, what would Dota have that would be worse than any other game in the genre?

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Saruling said

As someone hating all MOBAs equally I've got to ask, what would Dota have that would be worse than any other game in the genre?  

Well, I guess all MOBA games, but I have not played any. Some Dota and some that MOBA from Blizzard. 

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Everyone hates fallout 3, but I loved it. I ended up buying it three times as my copies got worn out or lost. I ended up liking it a lot more then the early games. The early games didn't really wow me. They oddly come off rather generic. They don't look like fallout. (Yes I know how strange that sounds.)  I think because of the graphical limitations. Also I fund them a lot less impressive then arcanum. Really I just played them all out of order.

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October 6, 2016 - 5:52 pm
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Tower Defense Games. But my reasons very simple. Their a poor man's RTS.

See, the original shit, was just modded maps for RTS. Iirc it started with Command & Conquer Red Alert or Tiberian Sun. Somehow, they managed to make a fun map idea into a full fucking release and call me elitist but that shits just lazy. I get RTS can be hard to make but come the fuck on.

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Need for Speed: Underground. Honestly I don't like to play long games. I want to relax while playing. So I prefer small games. It can be poker or angry birds, usually play online on http://www.kizi2games.net/ . These games just to kill time and I don't have to think what mission I have to finish next time. 

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Mantic0re said
Need for Speed: Underground. Honestly I don't like to play long games. I want to relax while playing. So I prefer small games. It can be poker or angry birds, usually play online on http://www.kizi2games.net/ . These games just to kill time and I don't have to think what mission I have to finish next time.   

Sounds like you'd hate a lot more than just Need for Speed then.

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Only_Locklear_Left said
Tower Defense Games. But my reasons very simple. Their a poor man's RTS.
See, the original shit, was just modded maps for RTS. Iirc it started with Command & Conquer Red Alert or Tiberian Sun. Somehow, they managed to make a fun map idea into a full fucking release and call me elitist but that shits just lazy. I get RTS can be hard to make but come the fuck on.  

I see where you are coming from, but the same thing could be said of MOBAs.

 

Tower Defense games have specific things that guide them and an entirely different sort of strategy than an RTS. 

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Everyone seems to love Kingdom Hearts and I won't give it a chance. Just no interest, feel it is lazy to take from FF and Disney (I think there is more characters from different universes they have taken for it) combine them then have some characters save their individual universe or world. 

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Andrew Otton said

I see where you are coming from, but the same thing could be said of MOBAs.

 

Tower Defense games have specific things that guide them and an entirely different sort of strategy than an RTS.   

I get you but at least MOBA's can have some kind of unique aspects, even if it technically a one unit RTS (fun story, the very first prototype for a MOBA was a Mega Drive game Herzog Zwei) but every Tower Defense game can be literally found in any type of RTS. Even the first person aspect idea can be traced back to that cancelled Tiberium Sun offshoot Tiberium (god EA, may you burn in the hell of publisher mediocrity for eternity for failing on that IP) and the first person Star Craft 2 mod. There's likely even earlier examples before it became famous in Sanctum.

I know it sounds cynical but honestly, most Tower Defense games are just rehashed ideas with slight alterations of gimmicks to make it "unique". I know that's a mainstay of the industry overall but this genre is by far one of the most stagnant for it.

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Only_Locklear_Left said

I get you but at least MOBA's can have some kind of unique aspects, even if it technically a one unit RTS (fun story, the very first prototype for a MOBA was a Mega Drive game Herzog Zwei) but every Tower Defense game can be literally found in any type of RTS. Even the first person aspect idea can be traced back to that cancelled Tiberium Sun offshoot Tiberium (god EA, may you burn in the hell of publisher mediocrity for eternity for failing on that IP) and the first person Star Craft 2 mod. There's likely even earlier examples before it became famous in Sanctum.
I know it sounds cynical but honestly, most Tower Defense games are just rehashed ideas with slight alterations of gimmicks to make it "unique". I know that's a mainstay of the industry overall but this genre is by far one of the most stagnant for it.  

It comes from its strict definition. I'd say things like Defense Grid have been a bit innovative in taking the genre forward, as well as things like Defender's Quest.

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