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Editor’s Note: We are reposting this article by Brian Hall with his permission after he got the copyright to it from Forbes. It had previously been up on their website for about 24 hours and then got pulled for mysterious reasons with “violating terms” cited but no more description. While there are a lot of theories on why it was pulled, we don’t know, but given the backlash surrounding it on the Internet, we believe that we must advocate against censorship in any way we can, so we are hosting it here. The backlash it received is amazing considering it is a pretty light editorial. You can see more about it on Brian’s website.

Needless to say, these are Brian’s own words and views on the topic.

Repeat after me: there is no “diversity crisis” in Silicon Valley. None. In fact, there is no crisis at all in Silicon Valley. Silicon Valley is doing absolutely gangbusters. Apple has $200 billion in cash reserves and equivalents — and a market valuation of about $630 billion. Amazing. Facebook now garners a billion daily users. This is a nearly unfathomable number. Google is worth nearly $450 billion and has $70 billion in cash on hand.

This is not a crisis. Silicon Valley is swimming in money and in success. Uber is valued at around $50 billion. Companies like Airbnb are remaking travel and lodging. Intel is moving forward into the global Internet of Things market. South Korea’s Samsung just opened a giant R&D facility in the heart of Silicon Valley. Google and Facebook are working to connect the entire world. Netflix is re-making how we consume entertainment.

Silicon Valley is home to the next phase of the global auto industry. Fintech and biotech are transforming banking and medicine. The success of Silicon Valley is not due to diversity — or to any bias. Rather, to brilliance, hard work, risk taking, big ideas and money.

Want to be part of this? Great! Follow the example of the millions who came before you. Their parents made school a priority. They took math and science classes, and did their homework every night. They practiced ACT tests over and over. They enrolled in good schools and focused on English, Political Science and Humanities.

Okay, that last bit is not true. They took computer programming, engineering, chemistry — hard subjects that demand hard work. They then left their home, their family, their community, and moved to Silicon Valley. They worked hard, staying late night after night. They didn’t blog, they didn’t let their skills go stale, they didn’t blame others when not everything worked out exactly as hoped.

Are you doing all of these? Are you doing any of these? Do them!

From all over the world, from Brazil and Canada, Nigeria, Pakistan, Russia, Norway, Egypt, fellow humans come to Silicon Valley to work, create, succeed. And they do. Silicon Valley is extremely diverse.

Of course, the iPhone wasn’t created because of diversity. Nor was Google. Nor Facebook, nor the computer chip, nor the touchscreen. They were created because a small band of super-smart people who worked very hard to create something better than existed before.

Wait. It gets better.

Silicon Valley doesn’t just create greatness, it’s probably the most open, welcoming, meritocratic-based region on the planet. Anecdotal evidence strongly suggests that disproportionately more Chinese, Indians, and LGBQT succeed in Silicon Valley than just about any place in America. Guess what? Everyone earned their job because of their big brains and ability to contribute.

Is that you?

Then come here! It’s an amazingly inclusive place.

But be sure to bring your computer science degree, your engineering degree, your proven set of accomplishments. Be sure you are prepared to sacrifice “fun” for long hours and hard work. Offer proof of how well you did in school, in math, in physics. These matter dearly as they are fundamental to what makes Silicon Valley succeed.

Silicon Valley is not perfect. It’s certainly no utopia. But if you aren’t able to make it here, it’s almost certainly not because of any bias. Rather, on your refusal to put in the hard work in the hard classes, and to accept all the failures that happen before you achieve any amazing success.

Stop demanding Silicon Valley adhere to your desires, or your limitations. Remember, there’s a reason you’re not using a flip phone. There’s a reason you’re not cursing that taxi that never showed up. Silicon Valley is about moving forward. It’s not biased but it is demanding. That’s what makes it so great.

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  • Ste V B

    Glory be to Streisand.

  • webkilla

    How dare this unbeliever question the glorious gender politic message. The tech industry is clearly only made up of white cishet men – it hates blacks, women and minorities. We have always been at war with Eurasia.

  • Jake Martinez

    Techraptor confirmed for epic shitlord status.

    Seriously though, I don’t understand the line of thinking that leads people to just simply protest and demand censorship of mere IDEAS that they don’t like. Why not just talk about them instead? Or how about proving that your ideas are better?

    It really makes me think that people don’t have much in the way of arguments if they fear something so much that they demand it get removed rather than just rebutting it.

    Anyway, as for the article –

    I don’t think businesses these days, particularly huge ones like Google or Apple, really give a rats ass what race/ethnicity/gender you are. Hell, even when I first moved back to California decades ago for my first IT job, I went from a relatively large metro area where homosexuals pretty much tried to remain hidden, to working in a small office with three openly gay people (2 men and 1 woman). This was in 1996. If no one gave a crap about it then, I highly doubt anyone gives a crap about it now.

    Some day someone needs to get it into their heads that you can’t take a pie-chart of the census information and overlay it identically on the make-up of a company’s employees. It just doesn’t bloody work that way and there’s no real good reason why it should and it certainly doesn’t indicate discrimination!

  • Trevor

    Is this article trying to encourage me to take personal responsibility for my own future? REMOVE IT AT ONCE TECHRAPTOR!

  • Wolfbeckett

    Implying I’m responsible for my own successes and failures is triggering to me! AHHHHH I NEED A SAFE SPACE!!

  • Eralun

    I don’t understand how this article is offence.

    Good job TR for hosting it.

  • It’s because when Forbes says they’re: Inc., a leading Internet media company, is among the most trusted resources for the world’s business and investment leaders, providing them the uncompromising commentary, concise analysis, relevant tools and real-time reporting they need to succeed at work, profit from investing and have fun with the rewards of winning.

    … they really mean: Inc., a leading Internet concession company, is among the most trusted resources for the world’s business and investment capitulators, providing them the articles they pay for, and/or threaten us about publishing, agenda-driven analysis, irrelevant idelogy and real-time catering they need to succeed at proffessional victimhood, profit from oppression, and have fun with the rewards of winning (even though they didn’t really earn it).

    Of course, that wouldn’t make one a multinational publishing company, would it 😉

  • Maciej Bącal

    This is just an opinion piece, backed by no evidence by the author. It’s not worth getting worked up about.

    Doesn’t matter if you agree with what’s being said or not, this is not journalism.

  • Caio Pontes

    Such an uncontroversial, mild-mannered article. how something like this gets pulled from forbes is beyond me.

  • thetrooper1989

    Anita Sarkeesian is so pissed lol

  • Caio Pontes

    “Hard work is key to success” is self evident truth. But you are correct. This is an opinion piece.

  • Cole Pram

    While I don’t disagree with it not being journalism, it is an opinion peice, why was it pulled from forbes?

    IMHO there was absolutely nothing controversial said in this article, nothing even note worthy.

    Oh well, it’s getting extra attention now because some “SJW” morons when in a tirade to have it removed.

  • Trevor

    “Forbes” u only thought they had a spine.

  • Ulpia Severina

    But I got my Womens Study degree and have a strong 2.8 GPA. How dare you not give me a six figure dev-ops job. This sexism has got to go and you will now make me head of your new Women in Technology Outreach department.

  • moeburn

    It’s backed up with a little evidence from the author:

    But then, there is literally no evidence whatsoever that there is any kind of systemic gender or racial discrimination in the tech industry, so I’d say he did better than most writing on the subject.

  • Yeah but I have fond memories of cavorting with those Forbes Women.

  • Unbeliever

    Are you saying that political science and humanities have pratically no use in a technological field?
    It also involves hard work and dedication to succeed?
    I can certanly see why this would be “triggering” to some people and Forbes had to take it down.

  • Uranus

    I don’t get why Forbes would consider this in any way bad. If anything, this is the type of message that young women and minorities need to hear if they’re to get into these fields. I feel the only reason why progressives are not sending it is because it renders them useless. They want all non-white males, which are the majority in almost every country, to feel completely powerless without them. Articles like this are a pain in their ass. They can’t let such positive vibes out in the open lest a woman succeeds without feminism.

  • Benjamin Wiseman

    An article that encourages women and minorities to actually go into STEM fields, and moreover welcomes everybody solely on the basis of ability?

    I can see why this heresy had to be taken down.

    And don’t get me started on how triggering it is when they imply that people who chose not to get STEM qualifications won’t get remunerative STEM jobs. A tech company should hire people with relevant and irrelevant degrees alike so long as they have the right genitalia, sexual orientation, skin color, etc. This is basic social justice.

  • Macavity

    > This is just an opinion piece

    This is true

    > backed up by no evidence

    This is verifiably false, as moeburn already pointed out:

    It may not be OVERWHELMING evidence, but it’s more than enough to summon the spectre of doubt with regards to claims of a “Silicon Valley diversity crisis”.

    > This is not journalism

    I would argue that it’s OPINION journalism, as opposed to INVESTIGATIVE journalism.

  • Benjamin Wiseman

    Egalitarianism and meritocracy are both part of the patriarchy, Uranus.

  • Benjamin Wiseman

    No, this opinion is clearly a thought crime and must be censored.

  • John

    Lol, if it doesn’t fit our agenda then you must delete it. What’s that? You want me to delete my opinion piece about how racist & sexist Silicon Valley is? You CIS Scum!!!

  • TheEdgeLord

    Soooo controversial. Or maybe not. I don’t think this analysis is correct, but to censor the author, that’s piss poor performance.

  • Ricardo Lima

    My compliments to TecgRaptor for standing for Free Expression and diversity of opinion. I respect the site even more for this.

  • Magic Carpet

    It’s an article advocating hard work and meritocracy, of course it will be met with resistance from the lazy folk. Someone getting paid to talk about diversity will attack this opinion piece relentlessly for their livelihood depends on it.

    The author is right that there is no crisis in SV, diversity-related or otherwise.

  • Ryan Juel

    You are only responsible for you. This article further cements that.

  • Fenrir007


  • Tyro

    I am not going to get into the details of how I got an offer from a Bay Area tech startup, but it had to do with my resume having a bunch of important “names” in the school and employer section, an ability to answer tech questions common to people who already work in Silicon Valley jobs, and a dash of coincidental professional/academic overlap between me and one of the founders.

    This is not to say I am unqualified, only that the entire ecosystem is based on incestuous circle jerks that hire from a pool of qualified people from the same small number of schools and employers. People pull in their friends who pull in their friends, who recommend their classmates, and so on.

    Wall Street is a meritocracy in the same way– bankers are highly qualified people who all just happen to have attended a private high school, then gone to an Ivy League college and then gotten a job as an analyst at a bank.

    The irony is that Silicon Valley started out as a means of getting away from that kind of pedigree slavishness and has instead recreated it.

  • countenance

    You’re correct in this point if you take the word “diversity” literally. But remember, “diversity” is a moving goalpost. What is meant by “diversity” in context of SV not having enough of it is that there aren’t enough developers and executives that are black women named Booshondria. Plain words, it’s an extortion racket that black preachers are running in order to get SV firms to hire their useless daughters and nieces with useless Fisher-Price HBCU diplomas into useless HR jobs.

  • FlamingoJet

    Time to find a new host if they are going to be censoring content for Forbes. It is not a host’s job to dictate what content you can and can not put up. I don’t appreciate that host trying to be my parent.

    I’m a big boy, I can read w/e I want. I went through the crucible known as aging.

  • angry foodie

    This intelligent comment is why you are in IT while the diversity industry sinks its vampire-like teeth in, trying to get a piece of the pie for the HR industry.

  • angry foodie

    To be fair, no one gets a 2.8 GPA with a women’s studies degree. Most of them are not even on a curve. Lots of 3.7-4.0 are the norm.

  • lunaticFortune

    Just another trend of human behavior – why take a risk on someone who has credentials, but no one vouching for them? Surely, it’s a safer bet to take the option that has, oh, half-a-dozen or more sources vetting for them, even if they don’t promise you the moon. A tendency to take the more-known, or more easily-knowable, option.

    Of course, I might just be talking out my ass again. It makes sense in my head.

  • DeuS_eX_DaRe

    nice article, if I hadn’t majored in philosophy, I’d be in S Valley right now!

  • ThePete

    So this is the article that led to weeping and gnashing of teeth? I guess that’s what happens when you don’t offer a sacrifice at the altar of the SJW god and its cult of professional victims.

  • epobirs

    Kudos for making this article available after Forbes chickened out.

  • the internet needs a “buy this guy a beer” button. Had I the coding skills, I would make such a system.

  • Message to the Author – I fucking love you.

  • Ian

    The humanities are more important than you give them credit for. Steve Jobs went to a liberal arts college.

  • random

    Money means diversity. Great conclusion.

  • Paul Widdecombe

    “Of course, I might just be talking out my ass again. It makes sense in my head.”

    There could be a reason for that…

  • Strazdas

    This article got removed? well now i have to read it!

    And having read that yeah, sounds just like i imagined Silicon Valley to be.

  • Strazdas

    This article claims that meritocracy is not evil created by patriarchy to keep powerless women down. therefore it must not be allowed to be published.

  • Strazdas

    Steve Jobs was an asshole control maniac that managed to take Wozniaks idea and sell it as his own. So hardly a great measure for importance unless importance is measured in your bank account.

  • Silhouette

    I don’t think that’s the conclusion at all.

    He states that Silicon Valley is doing well, and so is the diversity of those within it, because it champions meritocracy. People should stop complaining about others keeping them out of the industry, and instead, work hard to be successful within it.

  • Silhouette

    I believe it was Forbes or Forbes’ host that removed the article, not TechRaptor or TechRaptor’s host.

  • Iluvguns

    I’ve never been to Silicon Valley but I benefit in every way possible from their great work. That said, I suggest we slow the growth of the tech revolution and all of the social, medical, scientific, and environmental benefits emerging from it because Silicon Valley isn’t diverse enough. After all, NOTHING is more important than diversity…..nothing….not even new new medical tech. Sarcasm off.

  • cypher20

    I can see the problem with this article.

    It told the truth.

  • nicholasstix

    Forbes has become irremediably pc. On the rare occasion I read something there, I feel obliged to fisk it.

    Nicholas Stix, Uncensored

  • nicholasstix

    If racist shakedown artists were able to get Forbes to pull this bland op-ed after 24 hours, that suggests to me that there is a crisis in SV.

    Nicholas Stix, Uncensored

  • nicholasstix

    So did my late grandfather (Reed College). But before he could get accepted to med school, he had to take a bunch of science classes he’d missed at Reed.

    However, today, liberal arts colleges have nothing intellectually to offer anyone. They are just propaganda, job, and discrimination mills. I taught for years in them, and have covered them for many more. Someone who wants to study the humanities will do better with a modem, home library, and various public libraries than at a liberal arts college, where the professors will lied to and intimidate him.

    Nicholas Stix, Uncensored

  • This was the terrible offensive article that Forbes pulled?

    Nope, we haven’t hit rock bottom yet.

  • Difster

    I want a free-ride! I demand it! Give me money for nothing. I don’t want a meritocracy, I want a me-ritrocracy.

  • dirtysteve

    A lot of the people chanting for diversity are either not in tech, or aren’t very competent. Affirmative action would let them have a career they don’t deserve, like Shanley or Randi Harper.

    Others want censorship because they realise their ideas don’t stand up to reasoned scrutiny, for example, as you pointed out with workforces, you can’t just hire a ‘representative’ workforce all the time, because it’s unworkable.
    Companies are lucky to have, and likely totally dependant on, competent employees, being told to accept lesser skilled worker to assuage a social agenda, is a kiss of death.

    You won’t see Asian tech companies do that, they’ll take the best with no apologies.

  • Silicon Valley is no joke! You work extremely hard there as well as in any Tech field. The amount of work they drop on your lap everyday is enough to make any non-Tech person jump out of the window. But if you take the time an do the work! Man! the rewards are fantastic!

    Great Post!

  • FlamingoJet

    I didn’t say anything about Tech Raptor’s or it’s host. Go back and re-read what I said.

  • northern_confederate

    If anyone here still sends their shekels to Forbes (hopefully not) be sure to cancel and let them know that you won’t support spineless media outlets that don’t value free speech.

  • Corpus Crispy

    Oh, for Pete’s sake. It’s called networking. It’s a skill, but it can be learned.

  • BillyOblivion

    Both Political Science and Humanities are very applicable in technology fields, but only when taught with the sort of rigor that the Boomers hated when THEY went to school, and refused to pass on when they took over teaching, and when those subjects are backed with a deep understanding of the technologies in use, and with the work ethic that the Mr. Hall mentions.

  • BillyOblivion

    Well, remember the only diversity that matters is gender and skin color, not diversity of life experiences, philosophy or perspective.

  • Szebran

    Its a blow against the socialist police state.

  • nicholasstix

    I guess someone just moved the goalposts again.

    Nicholas Stix, Uncensored

  • Clearly Forbes was afraid of an SJW backlash to this article. All it is doing is pointing out the fact that you have to work hard to be reward in the field that you choose as a career.

  • Del_Varner

    Get this person some Play-Doh or a coloring book. STAT!
    (BTW: THis was not intended to be a put down of Wolfbeckett–I get his sarc)

  • jim

    My guidance counselor decades ago told everybody expressing interest in science or engineering or medicine to get on track to take calculus their senior year. What are they telling kids today?

    “Diversity in Tech” is a jobs program for people who aren’t any good at math and science but are good at writing grants. I predict a long and lucrative future for it, this is the kind of “great idea” that governments, universities, and foundations will fund forever.

  • Silhouette

    Great Article!

  • Silhouette

    You edited your post, and it appears I wasn’t the only one who saw the unedited version. Not sneaky at all. 😉

    Anyways, so long as you know.

  • Jon Exner

    Just remember the founder of Facebook, that low life jeff zuckerberg is someone who wants to increase the number of immigrants under the H1B visa program.
    Profit or knowledge?
    I guess with the 90+ million unemployed American citizens he can’t find enough skilled American citizens to fill those jobs, so the question still remains.
    Profit or knowledge?
    Any rational thinking American citizen knows the answer to that question.
    zuckerberg is no patriotic American citizen when he puts out the sign that says:
    I do not use Facebook and never will, zuckerberg is nothing but a money grubbing piece of sh–t in my book.

  • catb55

    I started in IT in the 1980’s… I am a woman . Within 5 years of starting in operations I worked my way up (by changing jobs about every two years) to Systems Administrator for a major corporation. You make your own future … however now I see people who have worked for decades in IT being replaced by foreign workers who will work for less money but I do not believe that they are getting the quality of worker they are replacing.

  • JohnFHudson

    If you are interested in socially engineering “underrepresented minorities” into Silicon Valley (formerly known as the Valley of the Heart’s Delight), an influx of foreign workers is only going to make it more difficult. The market is a matter of the number of jobs for available worker. If you introduce foreign labor, many of whom could not pass for Aryans, the foreign workers might fill some of the quota and make it more difficult for legitimate citizens of “minority” persuasion to land these jobs.

  • Hazel

    I have read over and over for the past few years that the H-1b contract workers are smarter and better educated than our own college grads. My two children went to a great college and in those classes were foreign students, my children got the same education and graduated with excellent scores.
    I am tired of the lies, we all know that these corporations/companies are hiring the foreign H-1b for the lower wages and no or very few benefits. When Americans have been with a company for a long time and then forced to train the H-1b contract workers and once trained the American workers are fired, then the jig is up. I have also been told that most of these workers have spent their HS years learning only IT, no “rounded out” students and the majority of H-1b workers have no special degrees, very few have a Masters or PHD.

  • gmarmot

    My wife has a masters degree in computer engineering, and was unable to locate a job anywhere near to where we live. Some of these companies then hired people from India with the same background. A computer software engineer earns $5,590 (368,000 rupees) per year GROSS salary in India (66 Indian rupees/dollar):
    Indian engineers will work for 50% of the going pay here, and still be much better off than they were in their home country. Is it any wonder that companies hire foreign workers? When our laws allow companies to bring in unlimited numbers of these workers, of course they will.
    The U.S. will become a country of the poor and the rich, with little middle class. Couple that with the projected year 2100 population for the U.S., 750 million to 1.2 billion:
    and your descendants will be living in a country much like present day India or China. Having spent several months in both of those countries, that is NOT a good thing. Your politicians, Democratic and Republican, are doing this to our nation. Your decendents will pay.

  • Epoche

    Perfect solutions tyrannize, and life is too complex for experts to
    manage. That remains true even when we are promised a system of
    liberation based on expert knowledge. More and more, it seems that among

    Freedom means comprehensive control of human relations so we don’t oppress each other.

    Equality means rule by irresponsible and unrepresentative elites. Otherwise there’s no one to keep us equal.

    Inclusiveness means distinctions can’t be allowed to matter, so they have to be destroyed or neutered.

    means everyone has to be powerless. Otherwise, some would be more
    powerful than others and that wouldn’t be democratic.

    people what they want means destroying the goods they care about most,
    since those goods can’t be equal, optional, and externally manageable.

    means submission of the mind and will to expert pronouncements that
    always turn out to promote the power and authority of experts and

    Diversity means that people attached to nonliberal principles must be demonized as bigots and fundamentalists.

  • Epoche

    Because the elite are abandoning the idea of a nation state expect this kind of thing to continue. People born in this country seem to be relatively disadvantaged against those we are not.

  • FlamingoJet

    Oh, OK you caught the non-edited one. Yes, I did edit it to fix the misinformation I got when I misread the title and article.

    It is now currently correct and my points still stand.

  • Reason

    The drive for “diversity” really means “there’s too many white people”. Never mind merit or gains earned through hard work, we should only consider someone’s eligibility based on their skin color, race, or sex. This politically correct BS will be the demise of the United States.

  • zaiger

    If you want to succeed go to school in a STEM field, engineering, computer science etc and work hard. That is the basis of this article. WTF is the problem with that? Why are feminists and SJW’s upset about this?

  • Even if there was a diversity problem, it is a tad hysteric to call such a thing a “crisis”.

    If companies were going under left and right, and tens of thousands of people were losing jobs, THAT would be a crisis.

  • James Bowen

    There is a lot of bias in Silicon Valley–against Americans. There is a strong preference for cheap foreign labor and an ever increasing number of H-1B visas. They need to hire Americans and these guest worker visas need to be eliminated.

  • jakeleone

    Hiring a person is a formula.

    There is no “evidence” that Silicon Valley hiring is always a “Meritocratic” moment. There is plenty of evidence that Silicon Valley hiring is formulaic and crony-ite (friends hiring other friends,).

    The formula comes from a Ouija board of interests, Venture Capitalists, Hiring Managers, and/or an Outsourcing contract vs. a hundred separate contracts (simplifying your HR requirement).

    The moment a company that is funded by VC interests, needs to grow in personnel, there appears to be immediate wage pressure. If a company becomes mature, there may be periods of low-wage pressure, high salaries. But there can also be equal periods of high wage pressure, even with high profitability.

    This wage pressure opens a door for companies that specialize in providing contract personnel. These contracting companies specialize in keeping wages low, and one way they do that is to bring people in on an H-1b visa. They then contract those people out for profit (sometimes small, sometimes big).

    And, not surprisingly, these workers often take on low level, starting, positions, that Americans in Silicon Valley cannot afford do take. Realize that with the sky-high rents in Silicon Valley, the current living wage is 115,000$/year.

    But most of the problem, in the over-subscription of H-1b visas, comes from mature (and highly profitable) companies that are experiencing wage pressure for reasons of extreme greed.

    These are the companies that could pay a living wage, yet, because of CEO fashion (or pressure from investors or the board) have chosen to instead use an Offshore Outsourcing company to replace better qualified, more experienced workers with workers coming in on an H-1b visa.

    So do I care about a domestic tech-originating startup using people coming in on an H-1b visa, so they can pay a sub-standard wage?

    Not as much as I care about an established company using the H-1b visa to displace highly qualified workers (and we are not just talking about tech workers, we are talking about whole departments being replaced and removed by workers coming in on an H-1b visa).

    The CEOs, Venture Capitalists are all just a bunch of Whiners! Who keep asking for unlimited numbers of H-1b visas. Without stopping, taking a deep-breath, to think about what their Zero-IQ whining is doing to the rest of the U.S. economy.

    We cannot allow, the Zero-IQ whining of people who refuse to realize (or realize but choose to never speak about) the real problem with the H-1b visa.

    If Offshore Outsourcing companies were barred from the H-1b Non Immigrant Federal Government program, we would never have seen a year, since inception, where we ran out of H-1b visas.

    Our domestic tech originating companies, barely use one-third of the available H-1b visas.

    Offshore Outsourcing companies use more than half of the H-1b visa each year.

    Offshore Outsourcing companies are the reason why there is a H-1b visa lottery each year.

    The reason why your domestic tech originating company can’t get reliable access to an H-1b visa, is because of the Offshore Outsourcing companies oversubscription of the H-1b visa. Offshore Outsourcing companies don’t care about the lottery, because if H-1b candidate A or B doesn’t make it in, candidate C will do just fine. Hey they are all just liaison trainees anyway!

    The H-1b visa, isn’t really a tech company visa. The H-1b visa IS AN OFFSHORE OUTSOURCING COMPANY VISA.

    Asking for more, or unlimited numbers, of H-1b visas, is another case of the “Tragedy of the Commons”.

    Because any increase in the number of H-1b visas will simply speed up job removal from the United States to India.

    Americans have the right to determine the conditions under which the H-1b visa is used. Because H-1b isn’t a part of Capitalism. It is, at best, a remnant of Feudalism. In that H-1b workers are indentured to an entity, until/if they get their Green card.

    And keep in mind, the Offshore Outsourcing companies use more than half the available H-1b visas, but sponsor, literally, only a handful (less than a dozen) people for Green cards each year.

    The dynamic capitalism that we have enjoyed is product of a Free Labor marker and a Free Capital market. And that didn’t happen in the United States until Slavery (as well as all forms of indenturement) were abolished.

    And I don’t care if Outsourcing Companies have to use the U.S. free labor market to do their lousy business in the United States. But our Federal Government has no business, what-so-ever, in facilitating that job-removal business with an Indenturement visa program.

    We don’t need more H-1b visas, more H-1b visas will simply speed up the removal of jobs from the rest of the country.

    Look I am one of those hard working, Silicon Valley engineers, you write about. So I would expect you will take the time to read and understand what I have written here.

  • Mark

    Not that many SV tech companies are actually profitable, or will ever be profitable. A fact that is missing in the whole H-1B debate is that the tech sector has done a very poor job in trying to raise its prices and capture value for the services it provides. The un-viable business models, giving stuff away for free, “advertiser-supported” nonsense needs to disappear. SV needs to transition to a sustainable system of supporting itself rather than just scamming the investment community which, as in previous collapses, will eventually tire of throwing money into a black hole

  • Mark

    The problem is, the hardest American workers in STEM are rejected from STEM jobs in favour of foreigners. Top grads can submit their resumes by the hundreds to SV tech companies and receive very little response. The glut of people is largely caused by the preference towards foreigners on work visas over qualified local talent.

  • Mark

    So true. I’ve heard of plenty of Indian-origin American citizens rejected by SV tech firms simply on account of the fact that they’re US citizens, and demand pay similar to US citizens. Tech firms just want discounted overseas workers which can be deported as soon as they outlive their usefulness to the firm.

  • Mark

    And new US citizen grads haven’t been allowed into the SV for well over a decade now.

  • Mark

    And the performance of the SV pretty much shows that. Very few companies make money. Most destroy their investors over time. They have a customer base that hopelessly is addicted to ‘free’ or ‘advertiser-supported’ services instead of paying for them proper. It will be interesting how the incestuous behaviour works after it all collapses. They might actually have to hire some real, non-brainwashed business talent outside their circle. That is, if they even are around any more.

  • Mark

    Rewards? You are aware that most SV tech workers earn less than police officers working in the same locale?

  • Mark

    So true. US citizen grads with talent simply have their resumes ignored in many cases, as most of the hiring is either of foreigners, or through structured internship programs rather than through the online resume queues.

  • DonnaConroy

    This author is not a tech professional. He’s a journalist. I do agreed that SV doesn’t have a diversity crisis–they have a discrimination crisis! When HR depts block qualified candidates based on age, national origin, race and gender, they are breaking the law. This is the crisis they are in.
    As jakeleone mentions, and other technical professionals can attest, there are many barriers hiring managers are using that results in hiring less-qualified individuals. I am sure that many here can report their horror stories. These non-meritorious hiring schemes are creating havoc with very bad code, missed deadlines and cost overruns.

    This author has been asleep for at least a year. There are now class action lawsuits working their way thru the courts based on gender, age and national origin. Along with these, “training your foreign replacement” at Disney is now the subject of a national origin lawsuit.

    When HR starts to stop discriminating, SV will become diverse. EEO violations (proper term is Title VII of the 1964 Civil Rights Act) are easy to prove because hiring managers are throwing merit out the window.

    Donna Conroy

  • Italy GG

    What was the logic behind the censorship of this article, Forbes wanted to protect SJWs from the oppressive concepts of merit and hard studying?
    Of all those people claiming to be oppressed in tech over their race/sex, I have yet to meet a single one with IT credentials/skills.

  • DonnaConroy

    I appreciate all the individuals and organizations that are standing up for fair hiring in SV. Some are technical professionals; many aren’t. However, the fact that many technical professionals aren’t standing up is a condemnation of us–not the non-techies.

    Every technical professional must navigate thru the blockages that hiring managers establish based on age, national origin, race and gender. Are they also aware of the class action against Google, Apple & Intel alleging collusion in hiring? The fact is most SV companies are lawbreakers in recruiting and hiring–the opposite of merit! Both discrimination and labor collision deny our right to control when and who we sell our labor to.

    So why are tech pros hiding in anonymous corners of the Internet documenting and complaining about this but not standing up? Because they are brow-beaten into submission. This article is a perfect example of brow-beating. Brow-beating is especially effective at preventing Americans from standing up for American Opportunity in tech hiring. Yes, whites, brow-beat other decent whites when theses whites sense wrong and want to do something.

    All of you have been told, “you can’t fight city hall”, just “accept and buck up” and the tried and true, “get more education.” In fact, more education will often make individual candidates over-qualified which is a legal block to hiring. Individuals can never change an entire company’s HR practices so it hires on merit. Only the company can change HR practices. But this is the best way to brow-beat all tech professionals!

    However, individuals, in partnership with legal teams, can re-shape an entire company’s HR practices so merit is the central process. The class actions against Infosys and Tata for national origin, the class action against Google for age discrimination, and the class action against Microsoft for gender discrimination come to mind.

    What’s amusing is technical professionals who are being discriminated against by these companies are also supporting these discriminatory practices. This is the power of brow-beating and the effect of submission.

    Donna Conroy

  • DonnaConroy

    Mark, I agree completely. Many Millennials tell me horror stories of working for startups. These are slave like conditions for very little money. These startups don’t pay prevailing wage so they can’t hire on H1-b. I met someone who was paid $30K in NYC at a startup!

  • To be honest, it’s actually hard to find high caliber highly qualified individuals, regardless what they look like, or where they’re from, without paying obscenely high salaries

  • The foreigners get priority because they’re willing to work for less money, while having the same skill set. That’s capitalism.

  • You can’t provide evidence that something doesn’t exist.

  • Jon Exner

    You mean high caliber, highly qualified individuals like you that take 5 day to respond to a post.
    The evidence is already out there that the H1B visa program is not about skill sets but more about low wage workers.
    Do a little research on it, 60 minutes did the first story on this back in the early 70’s other news outlets have also reported on this.
    I guess you believe that mark zuckerberg is the only smart guy in the U.S.A. and no other American citizens can keep up with him.

  • JAK

    Just curious if anyone is noticing an age bias in the Silicon Valley? The tech industry seems to be young and getting younger.

  • DonnaConroy

    JAK, it’s not bias. It is discrimination. The practice of blocking qualified candidates for age is lawbreaking. For 51 years, companies, particularly their HR personnel know that doing so means they will break the law. They know this lawbreaking will result in Title VII (of the 1964 Civil Rights Act) suits.

    There’s an age related class action lawsuit against Google working it’s way thru the courts. There’s 2 national origin lawsuits against Infosys and Tata. There’s 2 gender lawsuits against Microsoft and Linkedin. All are class action suits.

  • Macavity

    To quote J. C. Denton in Deus Ex:

    “Do you have a single fact to back this up?”

  • BurntToShreds

    I have recently redoubled my efforts to get a grasp on the mathematics that I’m going to need to use in my pursuit of a career somewhere in the field of geology. I hope that my efforts to work hard every day will be rewarded with an honest, respectable job somewhere down the line. But sadly, as a white male, I’m unsure what my job prospects will be in the years to come.

  • BurntToShreds

    I think I found out why Forbes deleted the article: Moira Forbes had an axe to grind. Here’s her latest article published today:

  • JadeVisions

    If I were a tech CEO, I’d just create a standardized test. Figure out what we need in terms of problem-solving abilities and create a direct system to test it and take a chance on those who pass the test. This would eliminate all of the class, credentialism, and age-related biases. But it would be no solace to the SJWs. The specialized high schools in NYC (Bronx Science, Brooklyn Tech & Stuyvesant) are a pure meritocracy based on a special test – the Specialized High School Admissions Test (SHSAT.) Asian-Americans dominate the schools now. Mind you, these folks are not rich – half of the specialized high school students qualify for free or reduced-price lunch. So now, Bill de Blasio has been keen on gutting the standards. The Pat Moynihan generation of liberals would have celebrated the advancement of these poor Asians, but now any person or institution that cuts against the Narrative has to be taken down a peg.