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I often see the good in everything, because of this I’ve been scolded for giving too many positive reviews. Then sometimes a game comes along that has almost no redeemable features and I can’t help but feel angry that I wasted my time on such a pile of bugs, and Primal Carnage: Extinction is one of those times.

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As there isn’t too much to say here I’ll start off with the positives. Servers are really quick to get on to which is nice. The concept is awesome. You can choose to play as either Team Human or Team Dinosaur as you battle to the death in your small environment. The range of dinosaur is pretty good as there are 12 different dinosaurs for you to play as with differing amounts of speed, durability and attack power. The humans also have a decent range. There are 5 different humans to play, all with different weapons, including one badass flamethrower, and each of these classes does a lot to vary up play style. There are several different modes of play: Human V Dino, Objective Missions and Free Roaming no kill modes which are a great idea even if they don’t actually function properly.

What else is good to say … the textures look nice I guess. A lot of the environments do look pretty good even if Primal Carnage: Extinction is completely unplayable.

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So let’s move on to the bad. Primal Carnage: Extinction took almost 2 hours to install so I was expecting something epic when really I should have been expecting something that wasn’t fully optimized. Even on the worst graphical settings the frame rate was so slow on my Macbook Pro that the game was virtually unplayable. One second you’d be jogging along and the next frame you’ve already been slaughtered.

Primal Carnage: Extinction is awfully speciesist. Playing as a human is somewhat decent with the first person view and wide range weapons, but dinosaurs are just a mess. You play third person and spend most of your time running in circles trying desperately to hit anything. There is no lock on, and dinosaur’s attacks must be so precise that your opponent has to be almost standing still to do damage. Even then a human will take several bites to finally take it down, where as your mighty dino is dead in just one hit. Hunting in packs soon becomes essential.

Primal ExtinctionMostly things just don’t feel finished. Look how here instead of a third class you can see just a place holder for the text. Bugs and glitches are rampant. Users often complain of spawning into the floor (this is EXTREMELY common around 75% of spawns), static characters litter the map, dinosaurs can run completely into walls and floors and are prone to seizures, and more than once I accidentally ran off the edge of the environment through the sky and out into the black abyss.

But what about all the different modes of gameplay? They gotta be good right? Well I’m sorry to predictably disappoint you but no. The objective missions see you running around aimlessly as there is no progress, direction or on screen map to tell you where to go, meaning that I couldn’t figure out what to do and couldn’t complete a single objective. While Free Roam sounds a nice way to explore environments let me tell you that in no way is it “no kill”. You still get points for killing enemies, and it is still completely and entirely possible. Your server basically relies on the good will of other players not to kill you, and then some idiot like me comes in thinking that kills are impossible and busts up the place with her flamethrower before quickly exiting.

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Guess where I spawned

The only playable mode is Human VS Dino where dinosaurs have to outnumber humans 2:1 to make it a fair fight. That being said even then frame rate is so poor you have to play in open map like the test area above in order to see anything, and that sort of destroys the whole point of the game being pretty.

I can’t say much more than avoid Primal Carnage: Extinction at all costs. The worst part is that they actually expect $20 for this pile of turd, AND they thought it was in an acceptable state to send out for review. If you want something similar that actually functions I suggest Evolve.

My copy was free from the developer but if you like torture you can purchase yours from Steam.

2.5
 

Terrible

Summary

Just don't buy. If you like the concept maybe buy Evolve instead.


Georgina Young

Contributor

British girl, currently in Japan. Surviving on a diet of retro games. Worshiping the god that is the Sega Megadrive. I like Nintendo.



  • DEADBEEF

    Yowch. That’s just embarrassing for the devs. Wonder why they released an obviously unfinished game?

  • Reptile

    Because, sadly, Steam has no standards for a game to be considered “finished”. There should be a kind of validation process like Apple Store or Google Play where you wait for some guy to test your app/game and see if it works and is ready to be distributed.

  • ‘Steam has no standards for a game to be considered finished.’

    Or anything else for that matter. Unfinished games, broken ports, and copyrighted content are often in plain sight.

  • Typical

    I’m sure this game is still bad on any hardware, but could you give the MacBook Pro specs when speaking of performance issues?

  • Jim

    >Macbook Pro
    Well there’s your problem!

  • George on the Go

    It’s running windows :p I hate mac but seriously the hardware is pretty good on it. Should be good enough to run a game like this.

  • Juggulator

    Don’t blame steam for this. Devs that release unfinished or broken games for money are to blame. Assassin’s Creed Unity was sold worldwide in physical retail despite being in a buggy and for some unplayable state. No store will check to make sure an entire game runs properly, especially on all hardware setups. This is and has always been a devs responsibility.

  • Juggulator

    Yeah Mac’s have good hardware but god I hate their OS.

  • Jim

    Can’t wait till Linux gets standardized parts of its OS like Windows and Mac instead of having 300+ distro variants running a dozen different audio drivers, several different graphics driver, a simplified installation system that doesn’t require Command Prompts (THIS ISN’T 1987! WE STOPPED USING THAT SHIT IN 1993!), and any good AAA games on it.

    No, Steam OS doesn’t count.

  • Dan

    This was 100% a quick money scheme. I remember they devs putting this up several times with steam taking it off. I think I had it when it was called Orion something something with a subtitle. Could not even get into a game let alone play online. It was very painful experience.

  • Steve the Battle Axe

    Has anyone else played the game? My PC runs this game smooth with no frame rate drops or crashes. I think the author doesn’t know how to play the game, the dinosaur classes are balanced, if your 1v1 dino as a human, the odds are against you which makes human teamwork important. Free Roam servers were added for the roleplayers, “Get to the chopper” mode shows location and capture zones. Dinos don’t die in one hit and the hit detection is fine. The spawn locations are a problem but this is just recent from the last patch which should be fixed as always next patch. Dinos have to out number humans 2:1? What kind of noobs where you playing with, how long did you play this? 20 minutes?! Again, your issues with MAC Book Pro. Get a PC (and some time to actually play the game) and rewrite the review. While NOT PERFECT, Primal Carnage: Extinction can offer you many hours of PVP fun. 7.5

  • Steve the Battle Axe

    Get your facts straight before you start to think or even start to type. Steam never removed PC:E. This is Primal Carnage: Extinction by Circle5/Pub games, not Orion Prelude/Dino Beatdown by Spiral Entertainment, two completely different type of games. Nor did Steam take down Orion, that was the game called The Stomping Land which was in green light EA and taken off when the lead developer abandoned the project. Again. Facts are important, get it right next time. Thanks.

  • Was the game marketed as being available for OSX, or just Windows?

  • Steve the Battle Axe

    No OSX support ATM. Windows only (32 bit min and 64 recommended).

  • Well, from my understanding it was played on an Apple laptop with Windows installed, where it should perform no differently than on other comparable hardware.

    As an example, it performs like crap on my Surface Pro 3. The game is just horribly unoptimized.

  • Steve the Battle Axe

    That may be true, there are other players on Macs using OSX that play the game fine with no issue. However, one thing I would point out is that the author bio states she’s living in Japan. AUS and south asia locations have terrible connection issues at times. A bad ping rate could be the culprit in her buggy/laggy game issues. I am not saying this game is perfect, what irritated me is the fact the author of this review is using her playing skills or the lack thereof to determine PC:E’s fun factor. There are hundreds of players as of now having a great time, it’s a cool concept.

  • 1) Japan tends to have significantly faster internet access than the US. As does South Korea. So, you’re wrong on that. You’re welcome to verify this fact yourself.

    2) Player skills have nothing to do with a game’s ability to run on hardware capable of running it, or the speed of the internet connection the game is using. At all.

    3) I get you’re a fan, but assuming other people have to be isn’t a thing that’s true.

    4) The game simply isn’t optimized for mobile GPU chipsets, generally speaking. Of the three laptops I’ve tried it on, it runs at around 10fps on two, and around 20fps on another, but only when I force it to use the workstation GPU that it has in addition to the consumer/game-grade embedded GPU. This means that its minimum recommended specs are inaccurate, to say the least, and the developer’s history of support in terns of addressing such issues is spotty at best – they’ve released the same product they previously released, with a new subtitle and prettier art without fixing any of the underlying gameplay issues.

  • Steve the Battle Axe

    1. Oh I did not mean that Asian ISPs are slow, connecting to a host server is the issue. I’m in NA so if I join a game from France, then my ping is going to be 200-300+, if I join a NA server I’m looking at 60-80. Framerate issues can occur with a bad connection. Perhaps she could have tried hosting a match herself in a private connection and see the difference?

    2. Aside from the hardware, she wrote;
    Quote “but dinosaurs are just a mess. You play third person and spend most of your time running in circles trying desperately to hit anything. There is no lock on, and dinosaur’s attacks must be so precise that your opponent has to be almost standing still to do damage. Even then a human will take several bites to finally take it down, where as your mighty dino is dead in just one hit.”

    Dinos are mess? No.

    Third Person? Yes.

    No lock on? This ain’t Xbox.

    Run around in circles desperately trying to hit something? Playing skill issue.

    Standing still to kill? Playing skill issue. Raptors have pounce, Carnos charge through everyone, and dilos spit and it’s not hard to bite a running human to death. It happens ALL THE TIME.

    Human take several bites to kill? Depends on which dino class.

    Mighty Dino dead with one Hit? Unless pointblank shot from a Pathfinder depending on which dino class you are. Still the trade out is fair, slow reloading shotgun that lacks power with distance.

    Quote: “The objective missions see you running around aimlessly as there is no progress, direction or on screen map to tell you where to go, meaning that I couldn’t figure out what to do and couldn’t complete a single objective.”

    You have to run to the next objective ZONE while trying to survive, the progress indicator is at the top of the screen lighted in grey/yellow. ZONES that need to be captured are highlighted with animated yellow bars. You don’t need a map, the maps aren’t that big and this isn’t Battlefield 4. Again, couldn’t figure out what to do? It’s stated in the game mode what to do. Stay alive and cap the zones. Again, play skill issue here, ignorance is not a gameplay issue. Learning to play a new game may take time.

    Quote:”The only playable mode is Human VS Dino where dinosaurs have to outnumber humans 2:1 to make it a fair fight. That being said even then frame rate is so poor you have to play in open map like the test area above in order to see anything, and that sort of destroys the whole point of the game being pretty.”

    How is the fact that the author who does not know how to play GttC (Get to the Chopper) mode deem it “unplayable”?
    Dinosaurs have to outnumber Humans 2:1? Player skill issue here. A team of average players/casual players will get decimated by a team of more skilled players all the time 24/7. I’ve seen raptor players with 11 kills and 2 deaths, I’ve seen Trappers with 11 kills 2 deaths, it goes both ways. For the most part, the dinosaurs have the edge because more players prefer playing the dinosaur class.

    No Kill free Roam, thats just for role players, anyways, people go in and kill dinos and dinos kill people in that useless game mode anyways, no big deal.

    3.I’m more of a Skyrim/RO2/Depth fan, I’ve put about 40 hours into PC:E since EA. PC:E is decently good. Though, I will not defend it tooth and nail, it does have it’s flaws.

    4. Perhaps optimization is very well true, which I will take your word for it because I never have had frame rate issues, regardless. Out of 902 reviews on the Steam Store, 72% rated it mostly positive. And I agree, there are a lot of gameplay mechanics which need to be addressed, but this is far from a 2.5 score.

  • Dan

    Yeah, I admit looking back at comment had too many assumptions and things I had only heard from other people. My apologies.

  • Steve the Battle Axe

    All is well. Sorry I came off sounding like a jackass. Bad day on my end.