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So with the release of the Ps4 and hot on its heels the release of the Xbox One, I decided I would do a write-up with a more technical breakdown of the specifications of the two consoles, obviously power and therefore graphics aren’t everything, but when we are discussing what are intended to be ‘next gen’ consoles should 1080p resolution be expected? Baring in mind the two consoles are probably likely to last till at least 2016 where 4k should have taken firm establishment.

Microsoft has been hotly disputing that its console was less powerful than the PS4, and more recently pointing out that its console can run 60fps constant versus a lower frame rate of the PS4 (they of course fail to comment on the fact that the resolution is dropped to do this). To summarise before I go into the nitty gritty details, the PS4 is significantly faster, why is this and why did Microsoft choose to go with a slower system?

Both the PS4 and Xbox One use a custom Jaguar based AMD APU, i.e. A cpu and video processing unit all in one chip, this is both efficient, and thanks to recent advances by AMD, actually remarkably powerful when compared to previous ‘onboard’ video. The Jaguar architecture is a currently unreleased mobile aimed CPU which is expected to significantly outperform its previous Bobcat architecture, in the Xbox One and PS4’s cases, the CPU actually had 8 cores which will likely not be reproduced in the laptop parts to be released. However the CPU is almost identical between the two consoles and as such pretty boring as a discussion point, as it is likely the GPU and RAM will be the winning factor in the hardware race.

 

ps4-teardown-lead

The GPU in the PS4 is reported to be up to 50% more powerful in certain areas then the Xbox One, for example the compute units, 18 vs 12 for the Xbox One. The Xbox One also reportedly reserves 10% of its GPU power for the Kinect system. These statistics seem to match the early report from developers who stated that the Xbox One had to be ran at 1600×900 vs 1080p on the PS4 for their game to have a 20+ FPS, and the recent announcement that BF4 and CoD Ghosts would both run in lower resolutions on the Xbox One. However the GPU performance alone is not the reason for the resolution differences, more important is the choice of RAM (memory) used by the consoles.

 

General manager del Castillo with theXbox One's exposed internals.

The PS4 is now confirmed to have 8gb of GDDR5 vs 8gb of DDR3 used by the Xbox one, but does the memory make that much of a difference? The PS4 is calculated to have a bandwidth of 176GB/s while the DDR3 only manages 68GB/s, this will make a huge difference to memory intense activities such as resolution and AA, making for a much more detailed and sharp picture, this will become much more apparent once the consoles are being used on 4K televisions in future years.

GDDR5-Memory-vs-ddr3

Realistically it won’t make a huge difference at the current time as developers will unlikely be able to utilize the full performance for a few years, as past gens have shown that later in life games always look better than launch games, but essentially Sony is future proofing a console that is fundamentally a low to mid powered mobile APU. It is worth noting that the Xbox does have some ESRAM which has been focused on by some critics as the reason for the 720p ‘cap’ that some Xbox One games are struggling to surpass.

A recent teardown by Ifixit shows both consoles appear to have significantly improved cooling solutions over the last gen, although this shouldn’t be too big an issue with the lower nanometer lithiography used by AMD and only needing to cool one ‘chip’.

Sadly for Microsoft, I believe its inability to make a console either smaller, lighter or even cheaper than the PS4 despite being up to 50% less powerful, really hurts its chances to win this generation, although it is heavily pushing the media focus of the console, I believe this will overall be a minor feature with most now expecting Netflix support and anything more is just a gimmick. The PS4 stands to gain a lot of group for Sony after the early failure of the PS3, and as a PS3 owner, I hope the PS4 can provide some great gaming experiences in the years to come.


Corwin Bex

A dedicated PC gamer, I write investigative articles about all things gaming, the juicier and harder to find the details are, the more likely I will seek them. I hope to expand the knowledge of the average gamer to understand the industry and its practices more.
I currently play WoW, various RPG and strategy games, you can catch me on Steam under CozzyB



  • caBooOm

    .. old news

  • Dakan45

    Faggot sony fucking asswipe

  • GobSmack

    Says the inept inbred who swears, grow up. There are better things to do then measure your console penis. Why not try educating your feeble mind in something other than cursing slurs at randoms while hiding behind your internet.

  • logic_criticalthinking

    yous said you hate fanboys but aren’t you stooping to their level using immature comments and insults?

  • Kamille

    the 50% claims are only comparing the GPU’s side by side but when you factor in other stuff it becomes even higher than that. If the rumors about the PS4’s CPU running at 1.8GHZ are true then that’s a performance gain over the XB1 and the same with the memory bandwidth.

    Seriously, this is not rocket science people. The PS4’s more powerful than the XB1 piece by piece. And not to mention that the PS4 has 256MB of DDR3 dedicated just for the streaming chip, which is most likely why the XB1 still doesn’t has streaming capabilities for Twitch. It seems MS didn’t factor that.

  • Edonus

    Oh my GOD.
    Cant believe I just read this crap. this is some big as Sony circle jerk non sense. Reading stuff like this makes people dumber. Articles like this is why all the Sony fans have no idea about what the hell they are talking about.

    He really just did a comparison on cherry picked factors. But this was good stelath Sony circle jerk stuff though. Like the 10% of the GPU being reserved for kinect…. no its reserved for everything other than games, like kinect, plus apps, plus the OS. When they get to comparing games resolutions and the reasons you can tell the author is just dumb but once they completely leave out the fact that the X1 with its full memory set meaning including the ESRAM has a higher bandwidth than the Ps4 (he wouldnt even right the numbers which is around 204GBs real world performance) you can tell they are working an agenda.

    Shame.

  • Dakan45

    Actually the guy is a sonyfag and it has nothing to do with this thing here. Go back to your basement

  • Dakan45

    Tell that to that sonyfag who lives to suck off sony. Not me.

  • Carl

    Cue screaming fanboys in 5 4 3 2…

  • datdude

    This Dakan is your typical delusional douchebag who can’t handle the truth because it would mean admitting he’s being raped by Microsoft. Wish him luck and move on. Don’t pet the troll. Kick it and keep walking.

  • datdude

    Yes you’re absolutely right. That’s why the multiplatforms underperform on the xbone compared to PS4. The Xbone is clearly more powerful. You must also believe the earth is flat. Good luck with that.

  • Wanderlei

    PS4 is weaker than Xbox One

    In 2015-2016 Microsoft will be far ahead for competitors to catch. 2011 designed AMD nootebook APUs inside PS4 will be outdated and that will be good time for Sony to make PS5 as a service only available on PC and Xbox One as they will have no money left to fight Microsoft. PS4 will fail to deliver and Sony will make looses. Xbox One’s future proof HSA 2.0+ 2014 designed tech will show it’s power by that time. Great lie story Sony started back in 2004 could come to end already this starting generation.

  • John Quilty

    Neither console is an HSA device, but the PS4 is closer to HSA than the Xbox One. The PS4 is also indisputably more powerful. It has more GCN units and unified GDDR5 rather than the One’s slower DDR3 with an ESRAM cache.

  • Dakan45

    This is datdude the typical douchebag that sucks off sony and desperatly bashes microsoft. Yet when he trolsl he doesnt talk like a “dude” but pretends he is upper class.
    It continues to amaze me how this dumb fuck appears everywhere and thinks whoever doenst like sony is a ms drone. Fuck you and fuck sony, steambox will pwn you.

  • BalramRules

    You drunk? How can you even argue that the PS4 is weaker than the Xbox One?
    The proof that the PS4 is more powerful than that Xbone of yours, is indisputable, PS4>Xbone, you can’t deny it, they’re both out, go check for yourself.

  • BalramRules

    Couldn’t have said it better myself.

  • David Košič

    Are you sniffing your bottled farts or are you just dumb by nature?

  • Wanderlei

    MS has not confirmed what architecture they are using…digital foundry and anandtech are comparing the 2 assuming they are both using the same architecture.

    Well for starters PS4 is GCN 1.1 as it has partial-HSA and APU efficiency.

    X1 has a custom version of GCN 2.0. highly sophisticated and custom.

  • Wanderlei

    MS has not confirmed what architecture they are using…digital foundry and anandtech are comparing the 2 assuming they are both using the same architecture.

    Well for starters PS4 is GCN 1.1 as it has partial-HSA and APU efficiency.

    X1 has a custom version of GCN 2.0. highly sophisticated and custom!

  • BalramRules

    Oh dear, let me simplify it for you. It doesn’t matter whatever architecture it’s using, or any of those facts, because the Xbox One is already out in the wild.
    The stats are shown in the page, and countless other pages, the multi-platform developers (the only ones that are truly unbiased) have all agreed the PS4 has truly outpaced the Xbone in terms of cps,speed, efficiency, and even POWER Consumption etc, on that front (Power Usage is more important than it sounds for a number of reasons, for instance, it significantly reduces the rate of hardware failures, size of console, whether or not the console requires a power brick lol, and so forth).
    The facts are shown, on practically every occassion, the PS4 outperforms the Xbone. You could consider me a PlayStation fanboy this generation, mainly because, this generation there’s no denying it, Sony has had a good start (more like, fantastic start).
    And both consoles are stuck with the hardware they got now, that ain’t going to change, so that’s a few more browny points to Sony.

  • Jose David Yacaman

    You make all xbox users look bad, in behalf of any xbox fan, shit the hell up. In behalf of all play stain fans … ha ha !

  • Dakan45

    I AM A PC GAMER NOT A XBOX USERS, STOP CALLING EVERY NON SONY FANBOY A XBOX USER.

    The guy you thumbed up “datdude” is an infamous sony fanboy that constanty trolls on xbox articles, no seriously just do some research.

    But hey its god to go around and talkign shit while you lack critical information and thinkyou have any idea wtf you are talking about.

    ps: Rutledge Daugette

    FUCK YOU for thumbing me down.

  • Allen

    LOL all of a sudden this Drakan45 troll came out of no where and spewed shit everywhere.

    Get a life you fucking idiot. You couldn’t hold a respectful conversation if it killed you.

    PC, Nintendo and Playstation are all excellent gaming platforms with Playstation being my #1.

  • Allen

    He’s a total troll PC gamer.

  • Dakan45

    hahah says the asshole that stated

    “PC SUCKS”

    Then said

    “PC is the best”

    Trolling much dipshit cunt?

  • Dakan45

    says the troll that first bashed pc and then said it was the best.

    SHUT THE FUCK UP YOU SONY PONY FAGGOT.

  • Allen

    The only fucking troll here is your sorry ass.

    no one believe this Dakan45 guy, just look at his recent comments. He spews total bull shit everywhere.

  • Dakan45

    fuck you sony asshole you are afucking troll go fuck yourself you stupid kid, go suck off sony some more dipshit.

  • Allen

    That’s because of your idiotic PC elitest attitude.

    PC does suck FOR ME.

    Apparently it’s always all or nothing for you. I have a gaming PC and I GET MORE FROM MY PLAYSTATION.

    In the end of the day my PC is just my home media server for my PS3 and PS4. I find myself playing PC less and less. Media, DVD burning and the random game I can’t get on PS3 or PS4.

  • Allen

    You need help kid. Seek help. Everything will be okay.

  • Allen

    That guy told you off.

    Funny how you always only have like 4 thumbs up. I know it’s you thumbing yourself up. Pathetic.

  • Allen

    SAYS THE ASS HOLE THAT CAN’T ACCEPT THAT OTHER PEOPLE HAVE OTHER OPINIONS.

  • Dakan45

    Oh please you first said pc sucks these days, then you said pc rock and now you say pc sucks FORYOU.

    Shutthe fuck up you pathetic troll

  • DrumStickNinja

    ROFLMAO Dakan45 is such an idiot.

  • DrumStickNinja

    You are comical. You are trying to be funny right?

  • Dakan45

    OH LOOK ITS JOHNPAULGREMILIC

    THE GUY WHO UPVOTED YOU ON THE COMMENT YOU SAID I WAS USING FAKE ACOUNTS, THE GUY WHO UVPOTES YOU IN ATTACK OF THE FANBOY AND PRAISING YOU AND NOW YOU ARE CLAIMING THAT THIS IS NOT A FAKE ACOUNT OF YOURS.

    Keep proving how much of a loser you are dipshIt

    Well done you proven you use FAKE ACOUNTS and you spend more time posting immature shit on the internet than taking care your wife because you SUCK OF SONY.

    Congrats dipshit

  • Dakan45

    HEY FAKE ACOUNT OF ROADSHOW How you doing? Being fake i see

    “LOL RoadShow got 96 votes on one comment. That’s about 25% of all the votes you’ve ever had.

    I agree with RoadShow. You are just a pathetic xbot

    ROFLMFAO”

    ROFLMAO

    FAKE ACOUNT EXPOSED!!!

  • Dakan45

    SAYS THE ASSWIPEE THAT SPENDS MORE TIME DEFENDING HIS PRECIOUS SONY BOX

    I bet amanda is like “Wtf are you doing”

    and you are like:

    “HOLD ON HONEY THERE IS SOMEONE ON THE INTERENT THAT IS WRONG ABOUT SONY”

  • Dakan45

    SAYS THE ASSHOLE THAT IMPOSSED HIS OPINION ON “PC SUCKING” AS A FACT. SAYING “PC SUCKS NOW AND YOU KNOW IT”

    SAYS THE ASSHOLE THAT THINKS SONY CAN NEVER EVER FUCKUP, GO FUCK YOURSELF DIPSHIT.

  • Allen

    Who’s Amanda?

    I don’t have to defend anything, just keep idiots like you from spewing disinformation.

    Not like it matters anymore. PS4 already won this generation.

    PC is good but doesn’t give me as much as my Playstation does. My PC only compliments my PS3 and PS4.

  • Allen

    Amanda is not my wife. LOL

    Apparently you just don’t know shit.

  • Allen

    LOL yeah I’ve been commenting about how much of a troll you are and yeah, Johnny is a friend of mine.

  • Dakan45

    Your facebook acoutn says all dipshit

    You are a denial sony faggot.

    You started this shit dipshit, i aint gonan stop

  • Dakan45

    So you two are fucing hahahaha two sony faggots love sony so they be like BROS 4 EVER

    PATHETIC DUDEBROS

  • DrumStickNinja

    Amanda is my girlfriend and I know Allen personally. LOL you really are pathetic.

  • Dakan45

    Yeah its ********.She is still a cunt what you gonna do about it?

    WAIT I KNOW YOU GONNA KEEP POSTING ON THE INTERNET AND THEN YOU GONNA SUCK SONY’S DICK SOME MORE.

    Please continue

  • Dakan45

    you started this dipshit,you became “pathetic” whenyou posted tons of messages calling me shit, next time be less of an asshole or who knows what you might run into, one of you sony faggots spammed me with 3 fake acounts on multiple sites and posted 62 messages in my inbox.

    Long story short i am TRAINED, you are not, so give up now, or this will go on forever.

  • Allen

    PC does suck in some ways. Back in the PS2 days it was huge, Counter Strike, all FPS games, MMO’s PC had it all.

    Now consoles rival PC and I get more out of my Playstations. I like Nintendo too but am holding off on the WiiU. I don’t limit myself to 1 gaming platform. I only refuse to ever support xbox in any way shape or form.

  • Allen

    You are the ass hole that started with the names. Every fucking post you have just tells people they should kill themselves and how fucked up they are.

    You have a pathetic life.

    Oh son you don’t even know who you are dealing with. Whatever it is you think you got isn’t what you think you have. You make yourself look freaking stupid as fuck. Immature, arrogant, disrespectful ass hole that does nothing but attack everyone you meet.

    Like I keep saying, seek help kid. Everything will be okay.

  • Allen

    The stupid fuck thinks he knows everything! LOL.

  • Allen

    We will be bros soon so yeah.

    We both enjoy all gaming…except xbox which is worthless junk.

  • Dakan45

    How so? pc is in a beter state now it has more games and more developers and makes the most profit so far?

    So how it does “suck”

    No wait i know its because its not like consoles and you want a console experiance so you dont fuckign stick into it, infact you dont stick on sony either you go around and troll xbox as well

    You started this shit not me.

    But hey apparently pc sucks now because its “complicated” but it wasnt back in the day.

    CLASS A TROLLING I TELL YOU.

    Howeve consoles do not suck with their locked out controls with no customization, inferior graphics and being unable to upgrade after 2 years that consoles get weaker and weaker nor is the the fact you pay for mp any “sucky” nor are the shitty controls for shooter any sucky, its just pc that sucks and ofcourse its xbox that sucks because the jap overlords at sony never make mistakes, you even defend the fuckup that ps3 was.

    Long story short you are a sony fagboy.

  • Allen

    Good luck with that.

  • Dakan45

    Look at you being tough and shit, while you are both sony faggots who spend more time talking here than in your real lfie, how pathetic is that?

  • Dakan45

    No dipshit you started the name calling because i insulted your sony trashbox.

    YOU need to get a life not me, because you apparently have time to spend here and argue bullshit than enjoy what you want and get it over with.

    “Oh son you don’t even know who you are dealing with.”

    I am dealing with a kid that graduated in 1999 and spends alot of time of “pwning xbots” every night rather with his wife and famiy

    Its you who needs to seek help for your gaming addiction not me.

    But hey feel free to go back to attack ofthe fanboy and post images and memes to prove people wrong, that is EXACTLY what a grown married man in your age should do.

  • Dakan45

    So far i am doign pretty good, not you though

  • Dakan45

    When it was the last time you did something appropriate to your age and did not spend time pwning those xbot 720 idiots on the internet?

    So how is jessica is she calling you to go to bed or anything? Or you preffer spending your time pwning them xbots on attack of the fanboy by posting pictures?

  • Allen

    Everyday.

    Attack of the Fanboy I go to for the community. Used to be about schooling xbots but anymore it’s mostly for the community and combating disinformation from morons like you.

    So what? You think if I cared about people knowing who I was that I’d have a Facebook account? Since you are looking it up and have such a problem with me come the fuck up to Medford Oregon and let’s fucking settle this. If you are man enough.

  • Dakan45

    “and combating disinformation from morons like you.”

    YEAH COMBAT US MISSINFORMATION MORONS SO YOU MISSINFORMED CONSOLE RETARDS CAN GLOAT ABOUT SONY AND THEIR EXLUSIVES AND HOW SONY IS KING.

    Thats how pathetic you are.

    “come the fuck up to Medford Oregon and let’s fucking settle this. If you are man enough.”

    Oh look the guy who spends time on a FANBOY site everyday is being a tough guy over the internet, how nice.

    See id love to come but there is one tiny problem, i dont even live in the USA, so i cant get there.

    if i could, then i wouldnt spend my time with assholes like you in the internet and if you could take me, you propably be spending more time in gym and less in the internet.

    Did i gave you some fuckign perspective on how PATHETIC and ponitless what you are doing it is?

    i myself try to convince that retard mittersh that he is wrong, but doesnt work and in the end of the day i couldnt give a flying fuck about some third world retard being a troll over the internet.

    Did you waste enough time with me yet or you wish to cotinue wasting your time?

  • Allen

    Dude I mostly combat idiot xbox gamers that act like xbox is the best thing in the world when in reality most their exclusives are on PC, no free exclusive content, worthless xbox live and proof that microsoft screws over their customers. Did PC gamers too with Halo 2.

    You are the little fucker thinking if you get some personal information about be that it would affect somehow our argument so yeah. If you wanna fucking get personal fucking come up here and I’ll fucking break your nose, wire your jaw and piss on you for good measure.

    you are the one wasting time, everywhere I go on the net you are there attacking someone and being the most childish, immature idiot I’ve ever seen. Me I’m at work and comment/browse between jobs. I don’t bother with this shit in my off time (well not nearly as much). Seeing as how you take everything so fucking literally. I still love my gaming PC I just prefer my console. I get more out of my console and I love that it eerks you.

    I have a respect for gamers, I hate xbox to the core and see how they have screwed over everyone from PC to xbox to Windows Phone users so I will not sit there while they lie or overlook huge issues with microsoft and xbox.

    In the end of the day you are just another fucked up kid with serious issues. You seriously do need to seek some fucking help.

  • Dakan45

    “You are the little fucker thinking if you get some personal information about be that it would affect somehow our argument”

    So you are saying you are proud to say that i allen heffley i am proud for pwning xbots on the net and the perspective i gave you does not change the argument?

    Seriously you got nothing out of all this? Nothing at all?

    ” If you wanna fucking get personal fucking come up here and I’ll fucking
    break your nose, wire your jaw and piss on you for good measure.”

    Look at you getting all tough in the internet. I wonder if jessica is impressed that you are being tough over the internet and threaten to harm people. Is this how far it has gone to? That you will physically harm someone over a cheap plastic game box?

    So you getting all pissy and personal with your first messages to me, DESPERATLY Trying to shut us off and insulting us in order to “make your point” and not even bothering replying….was that not affecting the argument?

    You gone to a xbox article and bashed xbox fans.

    Yet you say “I have a respect for gamers” when you DONT respect nor them, nor me.

    You went on a xbox article you bashed xbox fans and instantly forced down your opinion on pc sucking FOR YOU like pc sucks in general and you derailed the discussion.

    Mittesh?,now he, he is a fucking rich guy in a third world country that could afford a console and bashes all the people in his country who cannot afford one and so they build a cheap ass pc to pirate games on it. He is a fuckign retard and hopelessly in denial, but you? I thought you were better than that.

    So on all that shit, from your fixation with sony, to HATING xbox and just NORMAL FUCKING GAMERS that just play games on xbox, from derailing the discussion and thumb upping Mittesh and bringing pc in this and insulting me, from resulting to personal insults to daily spend time on “Attack of the fanboy” pwning xbots, from going around and insulting people from desperatly defendig the ps3 to threating to kill someone and wire his jaw and piss on him.

    All that from a SUPOSSED grown man that still acts like a kid.

    I wonder if i shared those discussions we have with your wife on facebook what would she thought of you?

    But hey i forgot you have respect for gamers an i am the fucked up kid that has serious issues.

    Perhaps its you who should seek some proffesional help, because you cant keep going like this.

    Just saying.

  • I thumbed you down, because you are being incredibly immature. You want to get a point across, maybe be civil. The amount of flaming you have been doing is absolutely ridiculous, and taking away from the arguments. The way you are treating everyone, actually deters from whatever argument you could possibly present.

    PS: I run this site, and honestly, I’ve considered banning you, but it’s not worth it and I refuse to ban anyone unless it gets too far out of hand.

  • Allen

    Wow you wrote a halfway respectful article. Looks like I am getting through to you.

    So when you go to my wife you gonna tell her that you called her a cunt?

    You gonna tell her that you said I should go kill myself?

    Do you realize that your behaviour could actually lead to someone killing themselves? I mean it doesn’t affect me because I know you are a fucked up int he head pathetic twat probably living with mom and dad.

    Seeing as how I hate xbox to the core, I can troll xbots and still respect them. I will respect them in the end, once the arguing is done. I’m friends with many of the xbots I fight with but idiots like you would never get that.

    And it’s not being tough over the internet, it’s standing up to an ass hole that thinks he’s something because he figured out who I am. Bravo…you found me on Facebook. Wow! Impressive sleuthing skills you fucking ignorant fuck.

  • Dakan45

    ” I know you are a fucked up int he head pathetic twat probably living with mom and dad.”

    Neither is true actually, i study psychology so i like to fuck with people in the internet. But you are keep proving my point. you continue to insult people “fucked up in the head twat living with your mom and dad” and you talk bullshit like ” i respect gamers”

    Which ones? I know the sony ones because fuck xbots and pc fags right? Thats what you agreed with Mittesh.

    You are no better than the averge console dudbebro who results into insults. Thats all, having a family apparently doesnt let you grow up, you still act like a kid and continue your kiddy activiities.

    “, I can troll xbots and still respect them. I will respect them in the
    end, once the arguing is done. I’m friends with many of the xbots I
    fight with but idiots like you would never get that.”

    AHAHAHAH

    You troll “xbots” and respect theum, so you call people “xbots” which is an insults and still “respect them”

    You are friends with amny “xbots” and when the argument is doen you still respect them in the end.

    Thats like saying that a neo nazi insults niggas and kills them, but hey he respects them when all the damage is done and is friends with them.

    But hey an idiot like wouldnt be able to get that.

    Kid, either grow up and take care of your family or seek serious help, You dont understand how much damage you are doing.

    But what the fuck i know right? Allen knows best because he hates xbots despite being friends with them.

    Well done, i hope your experiance here has revelaed how delusional you are. if not, then go ahead and continue this and ofcourse dont forget to defend sony that you are so envious off, you dont reallize it ofcourse but thats another part of being sick.

    I reccomend you seek help or your family is gonna hate you in the future. infact it is possible you cause problems to you family right now, but what the hell do i know? Allen knows best. Allen knows hot to insult gamers and also respect them, Allen knows how to take care his family and not waste his time on the internet proving dem xbots wrong, Allen knows what he is doing is right.

    Your behavior is very similar to racisim and drug addicts, but the racism here is towards “xbots” and your addiction is to keep logging in to pwn xbots on attack of the fanboy and ofcourse to me.

    Yet you do not reallize that and who knows how many hours of your life you lost doing this….but hey Allen knows what he is doing an i am the ignorant fuck.

    Congrats when you go to sleep tonight you gonna have a dream related to this.

    Feel free to post your bulshit, nothing wil ever change unless you admit you have a problem. But you wont do that,you gonna reply to me and keep replying as if you expect to win this, to get magical good karma points for doing the right thing as if you expect to beat this and go to the next level.

    But in the end there is no achievement.

    From all the kids i tircked, you are the most interesting case, a grown man who still acts like a highschool “nerd” with no life.

    It is interesting how the human mind is used to bad habits and treats them as normal after a while. Like you are doing now.

  • Dakan45

    Here have a thumb down, does it feel better?

    You can ban me if you wish, i can always use a proxy to return, but see, doing that wont do me any good because i am trying to prove to that guy that he is wasting his time and he should take care his family more rather loging in every night pwned dem xbotzz

    So i will continue this to another site with him.

    But hey its your call, if you ban me, i will not have to reply to any messages here, so i guess thats a good thing, do as you wish i dont care.

    Also using ghostery and adblock so you dont get anything out of it

    Do as you wish, i am also done with him as well, there is no salvation he is stuck to logging in every night and pwnind people about GAMES fuckign GAMES instead of taking care his family, shows how far some people will go.

  • I could care less about how I’m “voted” in the comments. I have other stuff to attend to. I don’t care what your reasons are, there’s no reason for either of you to fight a personal war in a public forum. I don’t care who comments, but I will be deleting the one that links to his Facebook.

    Open forums are very important to me, so I won’t ban people unless I have to.

  • Dakan45

    You gonna get more of this but not by me, at some point you will reallize people are asses and they need to be moderated in order to behave themselfs.

    Its ironic really as years pass more and more sites become more friendly so everyone is free to troll away, even youtube is a better place to argue now than forums and disquss.

    Pathetic

  • J.R. Moore

    Dak, by all means, if you need to be moderated to behave here we will be happy to oblige, but we like to keep the comments flowing and people can say what they want about others comments. Troll away about that.

    What we at TechRaptor will not condone is personal attacks. That’s all. Argue about the subject, not the user.

  • Allen

    That was a good read. Nice story LOL.

    Apparently you don’t understand and sorry but “xbot” wasn’t meant in an attacking way. It’s just a term I use and I think it’s pretty cool really. Better than “xbox gamers”.

    There are true xbots in the sense you thought I meant. These huge xbox fanboys that act like xbox is the best thing ever but they don’t look at anything objectively.

    Xbox is “measurably” inferior. It’s not about who’s plastic box is better. I fought 360 so hard because I hate pay to play. Xbox and Xbox 360 were the only gaming platforms in the world pay to play. Supporting that would do nothing but bad things to the gaming industry I love so dearly.

    Now that Xbox 360 was a success (still lost to PS3 but there is no doubt 360 was a success) despite RROD, exclusives on PC, no free exclusive content, worthless subscription service and grossly missing features the competition had…now we have PS4 pay to play. Nintendo will find a way to do it and PC can find a way to do it (Steam, Origin, Windows Live or even Steam OS). Before you know it gamers like me that enjoy multiple platforms will have to pay $180-$240 per year just to play online. Already right now if you go PS4/X1 you would be paying $110 per year.

    I was very upset when Sony announced pay to play. But since I’ve been a happy PS+ user for a couple years and since online play for non free to play games is the only paywall on PS4 I am living with it. PS+ will have to remain a valuable service for me to continue being happy with the PS brand.

    I have tons of friends that love 360 and fought with me all generation. But the battle is over, PS3 won the fight between the two and may still beat Wii in the next 3-4 years and the damage has been done. Xbox one will eventually get games with gold so I can’t call it a completely worthless service but they still paywall basic features, overprice their hardware/accessories and don’t give free exclusive content like PS gamers get to enjoy.

    So the real battle is over. Now I just hate microsoft because of what they have done and the few things that still bother me with the xbox one. I still say all you have to do is sit back and wait for microsoft to screw over the consumer again (they are doing it again with windows phone 7 xbox video content, focing upgrades to windows phone 8).

    No you are the one fucked up in the head because you come in and attacked everyone. I mean attacked. Fucking cursing at them, telling them to kill themselves the works. And for you to do this if you really are going into Psychology man fuck you. You are purposely trying to what? Make people depressed and kill themselves?

    I love how you call me a high school nerd with no life when you know I’m at work and commenting between jobs. What’s your excuse? LOL

    I will always be a kid at heart, I plan on gaming when I’m 70-90 years old. I hope there’s some kick ass arthritis medicine in the future. Hell maybe games will be more like a holodeck so I won’t need it. Who knows.

    I also love how you are taking this high and mighty road all of a sudden. I mean I’m not the only one calling you out, we got the dude that runs this site and several others LOL.

    So I like to troll sometimes. I do it because I am armed with the right information. Xbox opens it’s own wounds, I just make them apparent. The proof that I respect gamers is in the Attack of the Fanboy comments. That is the site that I love the community, that is the site that I have some of my online friends (and youtube but youtube is also home of my most aweful trolling, I’ll leave bait and pounce on them at the first opportunity). It doesn’t mean that I don’t respect them. What I can’t give people a hard time? I don’t even say anything about them, I just go in and drop a fact bomb.

    I get far more out of my playstations than I do my PC. I’m still a PC gamer but there are things I don’t like about PC. So in some ways PC SUCKS.

  • Allen

    PC sucks in some ways because

    (1) Doesn’t get some of the big title multiplatform games. Red Dead Redemption heavy contender for game of the generation is a no show on PC. Destiny has been confirmed not to be coming to PC and I wouldn’t be so sure it is going to go to it.

    (2) PC doesn’t have huge AAA studios making exclusives for it. It does have a ton of smaller studios making games for it but apparently you don’t know that indie’s are a huge thing on consoles these days. We too have those smaller studios.

    (3) PC doesn’t fit well in the living room. UI for navigating outside of gaming is horrid. Trying to see this little pointer mouse and using windows OS on a 55″ TV…no thanks. Trying to find a comfortable place to put a keyboard/mouse in the living room also sucks and you do need it.

    (4) If my PC is in my living room then it can’t be in the office and it can’t be available as my home media server.

    (5) I love Nintendo and Playstation exclusives. I love Halo as well and some xbox exclusives look good but it’s not worth supporting xbox. There are better games out there and many xbox games come to PC so just like that…if Titanfall is good I’ll get it on PC.

    I believe the best set up is PC & PS4. You get the most amount of games an quality for a combination set up like that. Nintendo I go back and forth on. If it’s a family or kid then WiiU is a good console for them but I would be very concerned about 3rd party support. I’m holding off for a lower price, bigger hard drive and larger library.

  • Dakan45

    “troll away”

    You cant be serious?

    This is why this is happening because there is no moderation gaminbolt was like that thanks to all the trollling they got moderators.

  • Dakan45

    Interesting stuff here. You reallize that the hatred you have for ms way of doing things also applies to people who hate sony for the way they do things? Sony are not saints. Or you gonna be a fanboy and defend them?

    So you say i started insulting but you gone batshit crazy in order to defend sony when i didnt even put any effort. But hey if ps3 “winning” the gen matter so much to you, go ahead sony won.

    Wii has sold the most units, no one gave a flying fuck, what about that eh? Does it matter to ps3/x360 gamers or pc gamers that wii had the most sales? Both sony and ms took huge losses this gen, yet one of them has to “win” why you feel that is right?

    “So the real battle is over”

    So you think that console wars are serious? You spend so much time into that?

    “You are purposely trying to what? Make people depressed and kill themselves?”

    Are you? Because that can cause the same thing to the people you insult or you are not reallizing how much damage you are doing?

    “I’m at work and commenting between jobs”

    ” Hell maybe games will be more like a holodeck so I won’t need it. Who knows.”

    So you never gonna grow up?

    “I mean I’m not the only one calling you out, we got the dude that runs this site and several others LOL.”

    Well as you said

    “So I like to troll sometimes. I do it because I am armed with the right
    information. Xbox opens it’s own wounds, I just make them apparent.”

    “youtube is also home of my most aweful trolling, I’ll leave bait and
    pounce on them at the first opportunity). It doesn’t mean that I don’t
    respect them. What I can’t give people a hard time? I don’t even say
    anything about them, I just go in and drop a fact bomb.”

    So you admit you are doing damage and yet you are still dellusional that you are “respecting them”

    I dont know what is more serious, the fact you are commenting between jobs and thus taking this so seriously or that you think that going around annoying people calling them morons idiots and other stuff is “Respecting them”

    Would you say i “respected” you? Would you say it was nice that i gave you hard time?

    i dont think thats how you feel.

    As for the “fact bomb” you need proof of that, otherwise its just an opinion.

    like saying ” in some ways PC SUCKS.”

    How can PC SUCK in some way yet be so vocal about it? Seems you clearly dont like pc, get admit that its the best and then still say it SUCKS.

    Let me show you the first posts i read from you

    “Wow you are one freaking idiot.

    In what freaking world do you live in? Sony didn’t lie about anything although I will say they were cocky with the PS3.

    Basically Sony lost a ton of market share by waiting on the PS3 for
    blu ray which it also put in the PS3 to ensure they won the format war.
    It was a ballsy move, one that cost them but won them that format war.”

    “You are a dumb pus infected dangling butt hair spewing disinformation.

    “PC fucking sucks you fucking idiot. It was great in the PS2 days when it could differentiate it’self. But now days it’s is very limited in it’s offerings with huge games like Red Dead Redemption and Destiny not even coming to the platform.

    I still have a gaming PC but I get far more out of a console than I do my PC. More games I care about (PC exclusives are cheap junk), more support, no headaches, no upgrades, no playing with settings, better UI for everything on a big screen TV (outside of big picture mode) and better controls for the living room (keyboard/mouse are funky).

    The only thing PC has on it’s side is (1) Best FPS due to keyboard/mouse (at a desk) (2) Highest graphics quality (although there’s almost no examples of this) (3) Cheap Steam games (4) Emulator (5) Everything a PC does – DVD burning, home media server ect.”

    You called me an idiot and said “pc gaming sucks you fuckign idiot”

    Then you talk about “accepting other peoples opinions”

    Could that reaction not be becaue of me which you never saw me before, but from some “xbots” that piss you off on attack of the fanboy?

    Yet the first time you saw me you insulted me like you knew me.

    Could it be thats the problem?

    But HEYYYYY you respect gamers right?

    “PC GAMING SUCKS YOU FUCKING IDIOT”

    So much respect here.

    That reaction wasnt even meant to happen, but you got frustrated from something you read previously and took it out on me.

    You can start or end a post with “i respect you” but if you insult them it will not do anything, it will be just a bunch of world that you can throw easilly and dont really believe em like “i love you”.

    Then you claimed i was using fake acounts because “its impossbile that everyone will agree with this idiot”

    Yet you were on a xbox one thread and people upvoted me and the guy who said “sony paupers” because we were against you sony fanboys.

    I took the trolls side by making it clear that i agree with him, saying “i love these so i will keep upvoting them”

    Then proceeded into classifying me as a “Xbot” as a threat and you became hostile against me.

    For what? For BELIEVING that i am an a “xbot” that came to piss on sony and you defended them.

    Really? Do you think Yoshida cares about you? He presents himself as an actual person to make you feel closer to the sony as a person not as a mutibillion dollar corperation that stretches all over the world.

    Yet you defend their brand like crazy.

    What if i told you that at some point in the futue consoles will die and sony plans on streaming old games through every system, pc, tvs, even your phone.

    Would it matter to you who makes the plastic object you use to play those games?

    What if someone uses a pc to play old psx games becaue of better resolllution/graphics and customizable controls.

    Is that person a pc gamer or a playstation gamer?

    Companies come and go, first commodore 64 was king and so was atari, then pcs beat commodore 64 and nitendo came. Then sega tried to win, but nitendo won. Then windows won over ibm. Then sony beat nitendo, then ps2 beat xbox then x360 was on top of ps3 for many years, then ps3 came on top. Now sony wants to go consumer friendly to get sales while ms was sure that they gonna get sales like all corperations do and they didnt put any effort into xbox one so they wanted to sell a more expensive weaker console with drm. On the other hand wiiu is dying and steambox is coming.

    So what matters to you the most playing games on playing games on a playstation system?

    You may think that people who buy all of the consoles are idiots but as it would seem they are the smartest ones.

    Think about those things and try to be more open than insult everyone because they dont like sony. Or you can keep living with hate in your mind, but that hate and urge to reply to “xbots” is a creation of your own mind and you can simply evade it by not replying to one simple message you see.

    Just like that, you can easilly take control of you life and let go this addiction.

  • Allen

    I started reading that but it got really boring. You are trying to twist things around. I “attacked” you as a response to the nonsense ass hole you were being to everyone and your bull shit posts.

    You have nothing. The whole point of me doing any trolling at all is because xbox sucks in every measurable way and these people are hating on Sony just because. They don’t have any reasons, like you. Also you were spewing disinformation saying Sony lied and that they took out the other OS taking away features when that’s just not the truth. I don’t know anything about the CGI thing so send me a link or whatever, I don’t fucking care. I’ve been gaming since I was 5 and lived these experiences and actively research this stuff because I enjoy it.

    Yeah I don’t ever wanna grow up. All my life I only cared about being happy and having fun. I am the same today and hope that never changes. I think it makes me a better parent but whatever, you will probably just try to say shit about my kids now because you really are just a pathetic ass hole trying to attack everyone.

  • Allen

    Here’s the very first thing I read by you

    “how so? ps4 had ton of problems appearing on launch, but the sony fags are not gonan admit that sony can make mistakes.”

    So yeah I didn’t like you from the moment I saw you attacking and cursing at everyone and saying shit about sony.

    I love Sony and can admit that there have been some hiccups in the PS4 launch. How is that a “ton” of problems? This is a massive new hardware launch, problems happen. The point is at the end of the day you don’t want the console you support to have 33-55% hardware failures like RROD. You can make up all the names you want but PS4 is very reliable and a high quality piece of equipment that gives me far more than my PC ever has.

    So what, you gonna flip out on me, call me a faggot and tell me to kill myself because I personally enjoy playstation the most?

    That is why you need to be put in your place.

  • Dakan45

    Why you posted this? I already told you that nearly every big game is on pc and in this gen even more will come thanks to the architecture. Destiny is not confirmed to never hit pc, like titanfall is, it just not in development right now. Even old games that were never released on pc are released on pc but the console dudebros wouldnt know about that.

    No pc doesnt have AAA studios but the AAA label has quickly turned into a joke, even jim sterlign and yantzee crosshaw say that pc is better for next gen than consoles becasue of how much of a joke AAA development has become. Indie games are actualy moreworth their price

    But ofcourse you love sitting in the couch. Would you consider an xbox? Nope you said it already doesnt worth buying fo halo. Would you consider a steambox?

    Something tells me you wont because you just used to sony consoles and cant change it now… but what i dont undestand is how vocal you are about pc SUCKING when you infact have one and use it.

    Could it be because i used pc and dont like what sony has turned into this gen? Thus you use that to fight me?

  • Allen

    And you are wrong because you are a dip shit ass wipe that thinks he knows everything. But you are fucking wrong buddy.

    Where’s Red Dead Redemption? Came out almost 4 fucking years ago. Still no PC release. That alone is proof. Also like I fucking said EXCLUSIVES. Sony has an army of studios pumping out AAA games for all genre.

    Also free exclusive content in all the best AAA multi plats. PS3 it was Red Dead Redemption, LA Noire, Batman AA & AC, Mortal Kombat, Street Fighter, FEAR, Saints Row the Third, Fight Night, Battlefield, Assassins Creed, Mafia 2, Far Cry 3 and more. PS4 it’s Destiny, Watchdogs & Assassins Creed.

    Big stuff to me too. I’m talking about additional free games, exclusive game modes, characters, skins, free DLC. Stuff as a PC or Xbox gamer you can’t have on these huge games that I love.

    OMG you are such a dumb ass. You pick and choose what reality you want to live in.

    I don’t sit on the couch, I told you I will never grow up. I sit front and center on the floor just like when I was a kid. Couch is not comfortable for me and I like being right there in front of this massive TV.

    I’ve also said SEVERAL FUCKING TIMES that I game PC, Nintendo and Playstation. FYI I am interested in Steam Box but am concerned because Steam is Origins rival and Battlefield is probably my favorite game these days. Not sure if it would come to that system because of that.

    Also I’m concerned about price and the controller but who knows, maybe steambox will replace my PC.

    so what the fuck is your problem now again?

  • Dakan45

    This was a direct troll bait on sony fanboys who bash xbox all the time but hey when sony fuckups, they defend them.

    Ironicly you took the bait and as you said “need to be put in your place.”

    Do you feel it was “needed” as “required”

    Even when i pointed out how sony decided to force a 600$ console with bluray on you and horrible architecture to make porting games to other systems harder, you still defended them.

    it seems to me you care more about the brand the experiance because you identified one with the other. As Evil within creator said, there is no need for two consoles anymore, it should just be one console and pc it will make everything easier.

    But hey one console means monopolizing the market which allows them to screw you over kinda how ps3 tried to do and how xbox one tried to do, believing they were not gonna face competition.

    So a new console is coming out, steambox, do you feel the need to “put it in its place” as well and bash it, despite trying to breach gaps between pc and console, give a better controller and improve the distrubition sale model.

    Or is that hatred reserved for “xbots”

    Or is it just sony that you NEED to defend?

  • Dakan45

    Now why you result into name calling again?

    I already explained this to you red dead redemption was not made by rockstar north it was made by san diego who has NEVER made a pc game on a modified gta iv engine which didnt work well on pc YET bully was released on pc out of nowhere, same with la noire and castlevania lords of shadow, brutal legend, oddysey to the west, deadly premonition even ikaruga is coming.

    So i guess that proves you wrong.

    Why are w saying things that we have already discussed? Could it be because you didnt pay attention to me at the first time becasue you ignoraed everything i said because i was a thread to you?

  • J.R. Moore

    Keep it to the discussion and no personal attacks. One more and this topic will be closed and a heavily edited comment will be put in place…

  • Dakan45

    So no you refused to understand what exactly you are and you are going back at defending sony and spewning missinformation and hating on xbox and peple like me because we have no “reasons” to hate sony.

    http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2013/02/sony-ps3-promises/

    But hey everyone hates sony for no reason right?

  • Dakan45

    Not locking it over this, nice try.

  • Allen

    This is exactly what I’m talking about. I had to fall into the trap of you saying something to lock the topic. So now it is, but before it gets locked…

    Sony didn’t force a $600 console on anyone and putting blu ray in the PS3 was a huge gamble. It was a ballsy move and probably hurt them more than helped them.

    I believe multiple consoles are needed, even though I hate Xbox I can say that they keep Sony on their toes. Competition is good and Nintendo sure as hell didn’t push Sony.

    “It seems you care more about the brand than the experience”

    This applies to you buddy. I’ve told you countless times why Playstation has become my #1 platform. (1) High end hardware at the right price (2) Sony exclusives (3) Free exclusive content in AAA multi plats (4) Highly valuable subscription service (5) Entertainment (blu ray/browser/upscale DVD/internet music/online movie rental/streaming service/connects to PC as home media server). I have more entertainment than I ever had before with my PS3. (6) More games that I care about than PC between the exclusives and 3rd party titles that never come to it. (6) Perfect for the living room both in functionality and controls.

    I find it odd that you have to call people faggots and tell them to kill themselves just because they prefer something you don’t.

    Oh no…I’m sure me, the tens of millions of console gamers out there and everyone on all the sites you post shit on are the one’s fucked up in the head…

  • Dakan45

    “Sony didn’t force a $600 console on anyone and putting blu ray in the PS3 was a huge gamble.”

    “High end hardware at the right price ”

    There you go getting a response from me, I was so angry that I couldn’t even type correctly.

  • Dakan45

    oh look he insulted me again, where is the ban eh?

  • J.R. Moore

    Easy Princess…no ban, locking the topic. Thanks for playing guys!